What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Theodric]

Man, I’m still bummed out the Ivalice stuff is just put on indefinite hold. They address the inevitable downfall of Garlemald during the Bozja stuff, while propping up Noah as someone who will salvage it and pull an even grander nation out of its ashes, only for everything to suddenly just stop, with Noah being assassinated… or something in supplemental material. His story could've at least served as an excuse to have a proper Othard expansion and cover regions we've missed in Stormblood.

That’s a good thought actually. Yeah they could have very easily used that storyline to let us explore regions in the far east we may have never been able to or even get to at this rate. Such a major shame. I was so looking forward to meeting with Noah as well, seeing how he would react to us, maybe he’d persuade us to join his cause?Wouldve been an interesting exchange for sure.

Noah was a very intriguing character and I do wish we'd seen more of him. I was especially interested in learning more of Goug - especially since there's a bit of dialogue about it being where a group of Garleans lived before moving over to Corvos and then later being driven out of that place as well.

We may or may not get Matsuno returning to work on some FFXIV content. I hope we do - because it'd be a good opportunity to make further use of some of the characters who survived the events of the Bozja storyline.

From what I've seen, the conclusion in the field notes does leave things open ended enough for Noah to make a potential return. Especially if he happened to make use of Aulus' research to hop into a different body by becoming a Resonant.

Just because some members of the localization team have extremely hot takes against the people who didn't like certain elements of EW's story doesn't mean there's some conspiracy going on.

To be fair, if people employed by the company are commenting on player reactions to the game's story then I think it is perfectly acceptable for fans of the game's story who are within the very same group being addressed to bring it up as a conversation point in a thread relating to the story. I'm simply pointing out that it may or may not explain a few things - though I encourage everybody to come to their own conclusions.

[Theox]

They said this to a person who literally introduced unrelated Twitter posts to bring up complaints about the Far Left. I think the argument of "who wants to remind us what political ideology is bad" was already well underway.

Confirmation bias. Blown out of proportion. You sure do love to be outraged by every little thing and I'm sure you actively search for things that will outrage you. Chill out and take care.

[Nilroreo]

Things got...weird in here since I last looked. But yeah, let's not try to inject real world politics into this whole situation

Just because some members of the localization team have extremely hot takes against the people who didn't like certain elements of EW's story doesn't mean there's some conspiracy going on.

This. Only daily dead horse beatings allowed please lol.

Aaaaaaaaaaanyways, drama aside, that one tweet doesn't even make sense. Venat's plan necessitated the Ascians play their part in orchestrating the 7 rejoining's in order for our history to exist. A far better comparison would be someone declaring themselves group leader and deciding everyone else's roles on their behalf... and then declaring she did all the work on her own like her codex entry suggests.

[Rulakir]

Ah, man. I just linked this thread to someone on Reddit who felt like an outsider for not liking EW. Let's just get back to that, shall we?

Speaking of which, there's a thread on r/ffxivdiscussion about which character do you hate that everyone loves if anyone is interested. :P

[aveyond-dreams]

As far as I am aware twitter is a public space. Logic follows that if you do not want your thoughts to be known, perhaps then you do not need to post them on twitter or have them under likes. In any case the primary concern is that the story went off the rails in Endwalker, and I am waiting to see where we go from here and begging for the return of the Heavensward writers and possibly Koji but FFXVI could very well be another forever in development game with how little information there is about it.

Wasn't he responsible for all of the humor and quirks back in the ARR days? I am excited to see if there's more of that in FFXVI's Valisthea. He made ARR's world quite rich especially in those early days of exploring Central Coerthas, when the game really hooked me. I do not know if the present writing direction is capable of such, since they prefer to take a very whirl-wind like approach towards new areas, sending us back and forth everywhere instead of letting us see the zones to their logical conclusions, similar to how things worked in Heavensward and Shadowbringers.

That being said how in the world does someone compare the Venat situation to being the only one working on a group project? Venat was a heroine *at one point* and then she fell to hubris and the world of the Ancients was partly destroyed due to her lack of taking appropriate action. The only logical comparison I can make to her is to that of a fallen angel, a role she fills more accurately than being a "supreme deity."

[KariTheFox]

Combing the Twitter feeds of some people who work on the game, complaining about far left agendas in video games? This is starting to get weird you guys.

[Skyborne]

This. Only daily dead horse beatings allowed please lol.

Aaaaaaaaaaanyways, drama aside, that one tweet doesn't even make sense. Venat's plan necessitated the Ascians play their part in orchestrating the 7 rejoining's in order for our history to exist. A far better comparison would be someone declaring themselves group leader and deciding everyone else's roles on their behalf... and then declaring she did all the work on her own like her codex entry suggests.

Not to mention a certain dark god symbol of hope and salvation carrying the whole world on his beefy winged back for 12k years. More than that, considering the time between his summoning and the shattering.

Ah, man. I just linked this thread to someone on Reddit who felt like an outsider for not liking EW. Let's just get back to that, shall we?

Speaking of which, there's a thread on r/ffxivdiscussion about which character do you hate that everyone loves if anyone is interested. :P

Actually agree with almost a whole reddit thread for once, what is this.

Well, G'raha is just a full on fan service character now. Shallow is the word(dare i say... annoying also?). Same applies to Emet in EW. It feels like when SE catches on that a character is widely liked, they flip a "fan service" switch and that's all the character is for from then on.

Especially this... I'm actually getting some cold feet for Emet at this point, especially with 5.3, the bit at the end of UT, and the numerous flashbacks in 6.1 (yeah, I know, we're just doing his ADVENTURE grocery list). I enjoyed him in ShB and did like seeing his OG form in EW, but I'd say I am overall more of a general Ancient/Ascian fan than 'all Emet all the time'. I do really wish things revolved less around our protagonist being this god that everyone must fawn over... as aptly symbolized by Azem being the sun that everything revolves around. I reiterate: I liked the Azem thing at first, but now I think it's a mistake.

I made this entire race and its hopes go extinct, but at least I got this convenient orange gummi plot device!

[Theodric]

I'm not really one to 'hate' any given character. Most of my dislikes are entirely due to a lack of consistency between what was established in previous expansions compared to how it aligns with what happened in Endwalker. In other words, the very same factor that caused me to stop caring about WoW's ongoing story.

The other major factor for me is overexposure. There's a wealth of interesting characters in this game and so many of them are forced to hide away and never see the light of day after their initial use because apparently we need the Scions to be present at every single turn. Which, again, just reminds me of how often Sylvanas and Anduin wore thin in World of Warcraft...

[Rulakir]

Actually agree with almost a whole reddit thread for once, what is this.

G'raha haters rejoice? :P I'm not going to lie, it's impossible for them to give me too much Emet unless they go full stupid with him like they have with other characters in mascot costumes or doing cutesy voices.

I've seen theories that there's a magnetic quality to the Azem soul. I'm not sure how I'd feel about that. While it would explain some things it'd also be like, great, everyone only likes me cause my aether is made up of Love Potion #9.

I'm not really one to 'hate' any given character.

Minfilia's the only character I hate. I even skip her cutscenes, I just can't stand her.

Edit: I repressed Hermes/Fandaniel from my memory.

[Theodric]

I always have a hard time buying into the idea that largely silent protagonists are super charismatic. I also generally prefer a character I create to not end up being the most important person wherever they go. I think it was Aveyond who brought up Dragon Age in another thread, though I suppose that's an excellent example of the sort of party dynamic I enjoy where characters can very much clash and even oppose each other from time to time and won't just accept everything that the player character suggests or seeks to go along with.

The very same party dynamics can be found in many of the single player Final Fantasy games. I suppose at this point the writers may have written themselves into a corner where they can't have any real strife amongst the Scions...or the City State leaders because they're too firmly entrenched within their respective roles. Which is unfortunate.