What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Kaurhz]

no i got that point and mataphor so i shifted into one of my own ... god i hate mentioning this anime but

if you show them real pain they will stop causing it like pain in naruto did

Are you trying to say: If people doth an eye for an eye, it'll maketh the whole world safer, as nobody shall dareth taketh of mine own eye in future, lest they seeketh mine own retribution?

(Edit: I'm just playing a nonsensical parody at this point)

[Raoabolic]

maybe the world would be better off blind if the the fear makes it stop causing suffering maybe its better off without eyes at all

Now you are just advocating for good ol' genocide! Welcome to the human race!

[KizuyaKatogami]

I think you misunderstand the metaphor here. "Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" more accurately means, "Making other people suffer as revenge for your own suffering just causes everyone to suffer". It is not literally about blindness.

Meanwhile us just casually rendering an entire race extinct. Also i feel like it’s easy to say that when we’re in the group that suffers the least. Like it’s easy for the main cast or protagonists to say that because they weren’t the one that had to suffer all that tragedy in the first place, same goes for nidhogg and the dragons. I’m not really on either side for this but it’s important to understand the…idk what the right word for it would be. Bias is the only thing i can think of, but just the way it’s easy for people to say “hey, just move forward lul” when they’ve hardly experienced the amount of suffering and hardships as other people just comes across as rather tone deaf. I guess it just loops around to one of the many problems of Endwalker. Trying to preach about suffering and moving forward yet the main cast is never held accountable for denying that like when they mess with time to bring someone back from the dead.

[CrownySuccubus]

I'm not defending the idiom itself. I think it sometimes applies, but not always.

Just correcting what I think may have been a misunderstanding.

[Caurcas]

By all means enlighten us on how stewing in rages for eons and committing genocide fixes or makes better yourself or brings back the dead. Once broken you can't repair things to thr way they were. The world, both in game and real, is imperfect and as long as beings have will conflict will happen. It's just the way things are.

[Nekokaori]

By all means enlighten us on how stewing in rages for eons and committing genocide fixes or makes better yourself or brings back the dead. Once broken you can't repair things to thr way they were. The world, both in game and real, is imperfect and as long as beings have will conflict will happen. It's just the way things are.

Somethings arent about fixing or bringing back the dead, if you cant be fixed and they can be bringed back then destory the root cause of that, why should they laugh and smile when they take from u.

sometimes an example has to be made to make the point

[Caurcas]

Somethings arent about fixing or bringing back the dead, if you cant be fixed and they can be bringed back then destory the root cause of that, why should they laugh and smile when they take from u.

sometimes an example has to be made to make the point

Starting to sound like some jrpg villain my guy.

[CrownySuccubus]

This sounds like the point where people would say "Drop it because this is off topic" when I argue.

[Nekokaori]

Starting to sound like some jrpg villain my guy.

maybe because games in general like many comics make villians who actrually have a point like poison ivy in dc

[Caurcas]

This sounds like the point where people would say "Drop it because this is off topic" when I argue.

You are correct. We've strayed too far from the regular scheduled dead horse beating. Shame, yesterday's discussion on how to rewrite the plot to make a better narrative was nice.