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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    I'm sorry you didn't like it. I might have paid a tiny bit of attention. For over a decade.
    You called it a "polarizing" expansion, not me.
    Maybe you mean it in terms of "No matter how illogical the story was set up you can still enjoy it to some degree or not, and thus there lies the polarizing aspect"?
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  2. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by Millybonk View Post
    You called it a "polarizing" expansion, not me.
    Maybe you mean it in terms of "No matter how illogical the story was set up you can still enjoy it to some degree or not, and thus there lies the polarizing aspect"?
    No, it's certainly polarizing. I'm sorry you didn't like it, but I've seen plenty say -- with just as much fervor -- they've loved it.
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  3. #93
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    They've been hinting at this for a long time now. They really just finally gave it an official name. We push past our limits on a regular basis. And even the Echo doesn't explain it, because we can push further than others with the Echo.
    Didn't Elidibus question your power when he struck you after becoming the Warrior of Light Incarnate?
    Doesn't the Stone of Azem that you call on a few times use Dynamis?
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  4. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    They've been hinting at this for a long time now. They really just finally gave it an official name. We push past our limits on a regular basis. And even the Echo doesn't explain it, because we can push further than others with the Echo.
    Except even the lore surrounding dynamis is wonky. They say its tied to limit breaks now, yet in the past its always been classified as a combination of aether granted to you by your allies. If its purely dynamis, then the fact Elidibus and the ancient trusts in endwalker can use them causes some inconsistencies. If its a combination of the two, that even further complicates things as then im even further questioning how the ancients wouldnt have known about it for thousands of years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Except even the lore surrounding dynamis is wonky. They say its tied to limit breaks now, yet in the past its always been classified as a combination of aether granted to you by your allies. If its purely dynamis, then the fact Elidibus and the ancient trusts in endwalker can use them causes some inconsistencies. If its a combination of the two, that even further complicates things as then im even further questioning how the ancients wouldnt have known about it for thousands of years.
    Maybe it's both aether and dynamis, but not necessarily in combination. As in, you can break your limit either with aether or with dynamis (or both).
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    I do not envy writers who are tasked with wrapping up and attempting to tie a bow on stories that go on for this long (like for almost a decade); I imagine it's probably one of the hardest types of stories to write endings for.

    Looking back on it, there could have been a lot worse ways to write and conclude Zodiarks story, but giving him/it more attention probably would have not been a wise choice, so I'm glad they treated him more like a vehicle (a MacGuffin) to move the plot along.

    If anything I'm relieved this story is over, because now they can begin writing something new that has no 1.0 baggage attached to it.
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    EW reminds me of FF9


    You think final boss is Kuja? Nope, it's me, Necron, a giant space flea out of nowhere! I feel a strong wish of death (cuz Kuja wish to go down with a bang), and will respect his wish to bring doom to the mankind. However, since I'm generous, I will let you have a chance to struggle against your existential crisis!
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  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Except even the lore surrounding dynamis is wonky. They say its tied to limit breaks now, yet in the past its always been classified as a combination of aether granted to you by your allies.
    Refresh my memory please, because I don't truly don't recall. Is that out of game knowledge given to us the players or in game knowledge we found out from allies and others?
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  9. #99
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    Alfimi Einst
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Refresh my memory please, because I don't truly don't recall. Is that out of game knowledge given to us the players or in game knowledge we found out from allies and others?
    Its a line during the Final Fight

    But with the upcoming nature of the alliance raid im also very intrigued by

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  10. #100
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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    The only thing I absolutely hated about the story was how they handled Zodiark. Everything else was pretty good, if a bit hammy, slightly 'power of friendship'-y, with a pinch of plot armour and a cup of macguffin.

    Bake at 350 degrees for 40 hours, garnish with the death of another beloved character, and serve hot.
    I mean i get it with Zodiark. We've been building ourselves up for this inevitable encounter, but it was meant to feel premature. We were just there to beat him back into his prison. He wasn't supposed to die.

    Do i wish that Zodiark himself had some character development? Yes. However i suppose that is just bundled up with Elidibus, isn't it. Elidibus was his core, as Venat was Hydaelyn's. So we technically defeated Zodiark before we ever met him by defeating Elidibus. Fandaniel said that Zodiark in his present state was like a feral creature running on instinct at that point without Elidibus.
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