What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Turtledeluxe]

Some people are just unfamiliar with sarcasm and need to grow up. The latest buzzword is genocide. And I've already dismantled that. Also being fond of the story of EW =/= being fond of Venat or atrocities. Strawman doesn't work here.

It's fine to dislike Venat, but when you have to rely on shock value, poor arguments, theories derived from side stories, etc it just makes you look silly. Haters keep confusing themselves with critics or analysts.

[Nayukhuut]

Some people are just unfamiliar with sarcasm and need to grow up. The latest buzzword is genocide. And I've already dismantled that. Also being fond of the story of EW =/= being fond of Venat or atrocities. Strawman doesn't work here.

You haven't, though. You may think you have, but Venat's actions are pretty textbook. She deliberately caused an action that wiped out an entire people down to their culture and even history. That is pretty textbook.

It's okay to like characters who do bad things. Heck, it's even okay for the heroes of stories to do bad things. In this case Venat certainly committed an awful act, and even if it was for the greater good (this is still debatable to me), it still resulted in the loss of an entire people who had thoughts, feelings, and ambitions before she wiped them off the face of the map.

[Turtledeluxe]

You haven't, though. You may think you have, but Venat's actions are pretty textbook. She deliberately caused an action that wiped out an entire people down to their culture and even history. That is pretty textbook.

It's okay to like characters who do bad things. Heck, it's even okay for the heroes of stories to do bad things. In this case Venat certainly committed an awful act, and even if it was for the greater good (this is still debatable to me), it still resulted in the loss of an entire people who had thoughts, feelings, and ambitions before she wiped them off the face of the map.

I did. What you just typed isn't really genocide. The sundering is employed because of Zodiark, tempering, philosophies, etc. It isn't just because Venat has something against mankind at large. Just because it affects mankind at large doesn't make it genocide. I'm just going to be nice here, think whatever you want man.

[Xeronia]

Holy heck we hit 900 pages? It has been a journey hasn't it?

As for the current topic I too would love to stop talking about Venat/timelines as it is clearly going nowhere. Personally my opinion remains largely unchanged and the writing of all of Endwalker has been as the title suggests lackluster and the patch content may have made that go from lackluster to terrible after Zero and how little I cared for her with how much the plot pushed the idea friendship and basically converted her into a scion instantly.

[Oizen]

Holy heck we hit 900 pages? It has been a journey hasn't it?

As for the current topic I too would love to stop talking about Venat/timelines as it is clearly going nowhere. Personally my opinion remains largely unchanged and the writing of all of Endwalker has been as the title suggests lackluster and the patch content may have made that go from lackluster to terrible after Zero and how little I cared for her with how much the plot pushed the idea friendship and basically converted her into a scion instantly.

You could tell everything about Zero, and where here character would go, as soon as she walked onto screen.

It was so cheesy and predictable. Right down to her job changing to paladin.