What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Xirean]

Your ranting doesn't even make sense please stop. If you believe the Elpis visit is what actually happened pre 1.0 then if Venat tampered with the timeline as a result of the future info, it could theoretically destroy the future we exist in. This is why I keep thinking its trolling at this point because you can't seriously not understand this.

Since you have clearly dwelled on it for two years. Honestly what seems like platitudes is your post.

Much like the WoL's journey to Elpis this conversation is a loop.

@YukikoKurosawa

Just a quick note on the time paradox bit. We know for a fact that changes can be made to the timeline and things continue uninhibited. G'raha still exists. The crystal tower still exists. He time traveled to undo a tragedy and as far as we know, that timeline still exists. Buildings and a person from that timeline still exist. This is why that idea that we can't change things falls flat. I've been shown through Alexander that time loops are a thing. I've also been shown through ShB that timelines are a thing. I see no reason to commit atrocities in the name of a time loop. I've mentioned this much previously in this thread, but put simply, it's obvious they didn't want to deal with multiple timelines, which is fine. Just don't do time travel then. Do time viewing. Let us see what happened without being able to interact with it. The sundering is a horrible event that occurred and was somewhat implied to be an accident. Now with EW that event was given purpose and intention. All other issues with EW aside, this is the single biggest issue I take with the games story. Especially because it's so easily resolved even without deleting existing content.

She literally couldn't do anything but what she did because she knew doing anything else would mess up the timeline and you would cease to exist.

Sorry, can't resist.

[Turtledeluxe]

Much like the WoL's journey to Elpis this conversation is a loop.

Yes we have always agreed on this. It isn't that I don't understand other theories, it that people who subscribe to the single timeline time loop scenario do not understand other theories, which is why I had to post so much. It is not because I am fiercely arguing but rather restating myself so many times and hopefully that is apparent to people who read my last 10 posts or so.

But most importantly, it is why I don't get the Venat accusations in any capacity. Venat changing the og timeline has serious implications for the game and story on a fundamental level. So the issue with EW should not be Venat not lifting a finger (which we never directly observe nor are we told about, it is an assumption), but rather the use of a time loop itself which misleads the player into believing things can change. Hence the OP of the thread who poisoned the well and spawned tens of new people who are just haters.