Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
We...must be watching very different media.
He's not wrong tho. We can occasionally get morally grey villains or supporting characters, but a morally grey protagonist is a rarity. How many times WoL was directly called out for all the atrocities they've commited over the course of the story? Once, by Varis during negotiations in Werlyt. Twice if you count "In the Cold" and the conversation we have with Fandaniel afterwards.

Emet-Selch was scrutinized for being ready to sacrifice the Source and its reflections in order to save his own world (not without reason), and then Venat was praised for doing the exact same thing because she was "a goodie" (she's not. She's just as morally grey if not worse in some aspects, the difference is that she happens to be on our side of the conflict, and the narrative excuses her actions as result of that. While the intention was obviously to make her a 100% positive character, she absolutely isn't when you actually stop for a second to think about just what she did).

Point being: it's not uncommon to see morally grey characters, that is true. The thing is, the vast majority of them are portrayed as villains. And when the same actions are commited by protagonists, more often than not you'll see them being presented as a necessarily sacrifice that they will be praised for. I've no idea what's currently going on in the sector of heroic movies since I don't like neither DC nor Marvel and don't watch them, but when it comes to games and manga - the main character and his company being directly called out of the horrors they commit is not as commonplace as you might think it is.