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    Quote Originally Posted by Heroman3003 View Post
    In this game's structure there can never be true 'our own journey'.
    FFXIV simply doesn't have a structure like GW2, ESO, FFXI, LotR:Online, SWTOR, Secret World Legends.

    FFXIV has a story driven narrative but the narrative isn't about you 90% of the time. It's more about these NPCs and the player is a just a supporting character or plot.

    It's like a DnD campaign and your characters only purpose is to participate in combat and deal damage. No real story involvement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    FFXIV simply doesn't have a structure like GW2, ESO, FFXI, LotR:Online, SWTOR, Secret World Legends.

    FFXIV has a story driven narrative but the narrative isn't about you 90% of the time. It's more about these NPCs and the player is a just a supporting character or plot.

    It's like a DnD campaign and your characters only purpose is to participate in combat and deal damage. No real story involvement.
    You've never played good DnD then.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    You've never played good DnD then.
    FFXIV just has a terrible Dungeon Master and a shit party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    FFXIV simply doesn't have a structure like GW2, ESO, FFXI, LotR:Online, SWTOR, Secret World Legends.

    FFXIV has a story driven narrative but the narrative isn't about you 90% of the time. It's more about these NPCs and the player is a just a supporting character or plot.

    It's like a DnD campaign and your characters only purpose is to participate in combat and deal damage. No real story involvement.
    The DnD campaign is a terrible comparison, but otherwise it is on point, yes. You do not have any agency, you are a hero on your hero amusement park ride. I don't think its neccessarily bad in and of itself though. That story structure can work and has worked in the past, and not just for FF14. But it comes with caveats - such as absolute reliance on companions and surrounding characters that actually will push your cart forward down the story lane. And if thats not for some people, well, I'm surprised they made it as far as Endwalker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    It was certainly a genius move to chase out Matsuno while allowing several individuals who aren’t worth naming to fail upwards into positions of power - only for the writing in all aspects of the game to suffer as a result. If I had to choose between the current state of affairs and the way things used to be, my choice is obvious.
    We agree with the post. The Realm Rebirth and the Heavenswart it is good because the Matsuno is main fanfic writer. Future of FF it needing guild to lead fanfic writing and show good way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    There is no need to introduce a cast of characters to replace the Scions. One of the staples of being the/a Warrior of Light in Final Fantasy as a whole has been wandering, and this has typically been done with no or very few allies until such time as they were needed. It's also rather common for Final Fantasy protagonists to group with different people at different times, oft times finding new companions (and parting ways with old ones) as they reach new areas. Those companions needn't be fleshed out beyond merely being given interesting personalities and perhaps a bit of backstory to discover along the way. They are, after all, temporary.
    Is not true. Must kill off all the Scallion chara to be making the new one. Is need for the dark chocolate fantasy traditional masculine setting like the game of the thrones. It making the dramatic surprise and show fanfic writer not afraid to throw away the develop chara. But is bad to get rid of No Shadow God. Is why guild must be writing story for patch 70.

    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    FFXIV simply doesn't have a structure like GW2, ESO, FFXI, LotR:Online, SWTOR, Secret World Legends.
    Is true. Other MUD it is writing like the choose the own adventure book. Chara it can correct course of story and is have full control on ending like the Mass Effect 3 advertise. Is like be the ghost writing of story. BBB was high impress Mass Effect 3 advertiser for live up to claim.
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