Quote Originally Posted by Tehmon View Post
Azem didn't just not offer support for the Convocation, they actively opposed to their plans. The wording here is important.

It is true that Azem did not offer support for Venat, but neither does it say anywhere that they opposed anything Venat did.

There is a clear distinction between the two, and if I'm being dishonest, then you are dishonest as well for assuming something about Azem's position based on them not getting in touch with Venat after her group tried to contact them.

Like we both agree on though, we can't make assumptions on Azem's position on Venat, but if that's the case we can't make an assumption that Azem was opposed to Venat's plans either, because nowhere in the game is it said. We can only interpret what it means that Azem never got in contact with Venat after her group tried to contact them, but those are only interpretations.
Had to go back and rewatch those cutscenes so a big whoops on my part for assuming Azem joined Venat's group. But like thats being discussed here, he/she also didnt support the Zodiark plan either which the game while painting the whole sundering thing as the "right" thing, it still had some bit if wiggle room in the msq to also not agree with Venats plan. Which is fair, but then again what wouldve been the best choice anyway? You can be mad at somebody for doing what they did but given the situation and the end results of it, you also cant necessarily entirely blame them for doing what ultimately ended up being good for the world. It also goes with what Yoshida said in one of the Q&A where Venat wasnt so different from the Convocation in terms of asserting their powers for their own causes. At least from what weve seen with Venat, she had a more free form care of the world and its wonders rather than what was painted with the Ancients caring more about their works believing that it was all for the sake of the star.