What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Cpt_Jack_Irons]

holy... i did not realize how long this thread has become

what happened?

[shadowclasper]

holy... i did not realize how long this thread has become

what happened?

People were wrong on the internet and so other people had to correct them, which in turn lead to more people noticing people being wrong on the internet.

[Misplaced_Marbles]

People were wrong on the internet and so other people had to correct them, which in turn lead to more people noticing people being wrong on the internet.

Couldn't function if everyone who was "wrong" just left, eh?

[Raoabolic]

Couldn't function if everyone who was "wrong" just left, eh?

I remember when all the "wrong" people left WoW back in the day. Wonder what happened to that game...

[Reap00]

I remember when all the "wrong" people left WoW back in the day. Wonder what happened to that game...

The devs and upper mgmt turned out to be closet pervs. Drinking employee breast milk, cube crawling, pushing employees to suicide etc. Blizzard and WoW are truly wholesome products. I wouldn't support them if they were the last development studio on the planet.

[Raoabolic]

The devs and upper mgmt turned out to be closet pervs. Drinking employee breast milk, cube crawling, pushing employees to suicide etc. Blizzard and WoW are truly wholesome products. I wouldn't support them if they were the last development studio on the planet.

Kind of missed the point, lol.
I'm talking about the people who are critical vs the fanboys. Eventually the fanboys will push out the critical ones and then... you know what, just look at every dead MMO that has died due to the IP holders going overboard with greedy/predatory practices. There is a reason why history has been repeating pretty darn hard this last decade.

[Reap00]

Kind of missed the point, lol.
I'm talking about the people who are critical vs the fanboys. Eventually the fanboys will push out the critical ones and then... you know what, just look at every dead MMO that has died due to the IP holders going overboard with greedy/predatory practices. There is a reason why history has been repeating pretty darn hard this last decade.

Thats ok. I don't care about the point. I just want to jam home how horrible and disgusting Activision Blizzard is along their repulsive business practices. I think I will just keep talking about that. This is purely an opinion thread after all.

[Striker44]

Kind of missed the point, lol.
I'm talking about the people who are critical vs the fanboys. Eventually the fanboys will push out the critical ones and then... you know what, just look at every dead MMO that has died due to the IP holders going overboard with greedy/predatory practices. There is a reason why history has been repeating pretty darn hard this last decade.

This actually misses the point. MMO's that have "died" haven't done so because of "fanboys pushing people out." They've generally died because of decisions that radically change what the game is about and turns off the majority of its audience (see WoW going from a casual-focused MMO to an esports-centered one), which is exactly what would happen here if some of the perpetually ultra-negative drones got their way. When you see comments like "I wish they'd get rid of the scions, but they won't because they're extremely popular", that's exactly it. This game has a huge, devoted audience right now and a small number of bitter people on the forums who can't accept that the world doesn't revolve around what they personally want the game to be. The forums were pleasant for a while with a couple of the perpetual naysayers apparently taking their leave; sadly, a couple new ones have now popped up and we're back to this.

[Xeronia]

People were wrong on the internet and so other people had to correct them, which in turn lead to more people noticing people being wrong on the internet.

I mean EW in my opinion just never really resonated with me especially on replay. New characters barely had time to grow before becoming plot devices and you can kinda feel the whole "We had planned two expansions but elected to make this all one so enjoy these clearly would be trial bosses as dungeon bosses instead, also Garlemald resolution will not be seen until X.XX." I wouldn't say that view is terribly "wrong" just different then what most seem to have taken from it. That is how literature works after all, we all take different things from the same story. I did find the overall story really lacking the world/character building polish I am used to from FF14 and almost all of the game post-Elpis just didn't land for me as again characters became plot devices far too rapidly to become invested in any of them as characters. I would still say it is my least favorite expansion even after all this time just due to odd narrative choices and pacing issues during the story. I do wonder how time will reflect on the expansion myself but we have to wait to see on that one.

As for the patch content I want to see where it is all going as it seems thus far rather dull to me and I am hoping for some kind of big event in 6.3 to shake up the plot.

I also imagine it shouldn't be a shock those that took bigger issue with the game's story and possibly other aspects of the game did as Yoshi P. says they can and took a break for an extended period of time.

[shadowclasper]

Couldn't function if everyone who was "wrong" just left, eh?

I mean EW in my opinion just never really resonated with me especially on replay. New characters barely had time to grow before becoming plot devices and you can kinda feel the whole "We had planned two expansions but elected to make this all one so enjoy these clearly would be trial bosses as dungeon bosses instead, also Garlemald resolution will not be seen until X.XX." I wouldn't say that view is terribly "wrong" just different then what most seem to have taken from it. That is how literature works after all, we all take different things from the same story. I did find the overall story really lacking the world/character building polish I am used to from FF14 and almost all of the game post-Elpis just didn't land for me as again characters became plot devices far too rapidly to become invested in any of them as characters. I would still say it is my least favorite expansion even after all this time just due to odd narrative choices and pacing issues during the story. I do wonder how time will reflect on the expansion myself but we have to wait to see on that one.

As for the patch content I want to see where it is all going as it seems thus far rather dull to me and I am hoping for some kind of big event in 6.3 to shake up the plot.

I also imagine it shouldn't be a shock those that took bigger issue with the game's story and possibly other aspects of the game did as Yoshi P. says they can and took a break for an extended period of time.

Never made a claim about who was being wrong, I don't have a horse in this race because I see it as a purely subjective thing, that was sorta the joke.

Enjoyed or not, a story is gonna hit people different, but folks online get so darn defensive over dumb stuff that objectively can't have a right or wrong answer and expend endless energy explaining how their subjective opinion is the only correct one (not saying this is you tbc)

I was poking fun at how ridiculously long thus thread had gotten because of that.