Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
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When I left wow as my mmo of choice 5 years ago for this game (not that I ever played wow, really), never would I have thought THESE nuclear hot takes would follow me here. Yet here we are.

I won't go into detail, because I already said what I needed to on the wow forums a half decade ago, but I will give the cliff notes. The mag'har orc scenario was also another scene of "these people are not only monsters, they are delusional, why are we working with them?" that the community missed a point of by a mile.

illidan is a mass murdering psychopath, a narcissist par excellance, and a madman to boot. The scene you are speaking of here was meant to show two things:
1) illidan is and always will be a villain.
2) illidan is just sargeras 2.0, and when sargeras is gone illidan will just be the next one utterly indistinguishable from the first.

There were hints of this throughout legion's story, but it was never beat over the head of the player so most people missed it. This was even a major plot point of tbc, and the sole reason altruis the sufferer is a character is to point this out. All his interactions in tbc and legion shows this as well.

illidan's problem with sargearas is not anything to do with what sergeras does or is, as illidan does all that himself and then some; illidan's problem is that he is not the one personally doing it. illidan is stalin to sargeras' lenin. it's a raw, nihilistic will to power disguised as a sickening "anti-heroism" because people fall for that kind of thing.

The irony of the scene is as such:
A) illidan was born lightforged by xe'ra, in fact xe'ra is his real mother.
B) illidan was good at everything because he was lightforged.
C) illidan was terribly lost because despite being competent at everything, he had a gaping wound missing from him just not fitting in anywhere; even his own family was foreign to him.
D) sergeras knew what illidan was, who xe'ra was, and was deathly afraid of him for it.

All that provided a careful concoction ripe for making illidan as mentally ill as possible, and with sergeras being a master maniupulator he found illidan easy to dominate by just trying to fill the "missing parent" part of illidan. Of course illidan knew something was wrong, and quickly shirked off sergeras' influence but it just made illidan's hunger for family worse.

this ultimately lead into illidan working for sergeras without knowing it. every self-hurt, every evil act, every "sacrifice" (each being the "scars" illidan held so close) proved to be a wonderful excuse for allowing illdan to commit any evil he wanted.

commit genocide? scars. enslave multiple races? scars. try to enslave two whole planets? scars. Mommy issues hidden behind foster-daddy issues? SCARS!

(the site very churlishly informed me I have to break this post into multiple parts because it's too long)