What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[CrownySuccubus]

I am too low on sleep to respond to the entirety of this post but I stopped reading after you attempted to compare the likes of the scions to party members who went on to become rulers in previous Final Fantasy games. The scions have the development of vanilla wafers compared to what characters like Garnet and Ashe endured, who opposed tyranny without being overly preachy in the way of the scions.

Again, if your argument here is just "I don't like them", then there's no point. I don't think anyone really cares if you, personally, like who gets put onto the fictional throne.

I mean, YOUR "better" solution was "put this OC blonde waifu on the throne". Pretty sure there's zero grounds to argue about character development.

but I stopped reading after you attempted to compare the likes of the scions to party members

Okay. So you read pretty much the entire post except a line or two, then.

It is concerning how several posters cannot seem to tell the difference between these two styles of expressing themes and messages. I feel like this post was written to just argue for the sake arguing

Dude, come on. Are we seriously preening about how superior our methods of storytelling appreciation are?

and little to no evidence was provided as to how repeating the same resolution for political regime situations 4 times in a row was justified.

As I said, FFXIV and MMOs in general repeat story beats all the time. It's nothing new, it's not "horribly bad writing", and it's not likely to end any time soon. Again, you have simply (for whatever reason) chosen "Oh no, democracy" as the specific hill YOU want to die on. If we're supposed to be complaining about repetition, then we could go all the way back to Shadowbringers revealing "Oh by the way, here's yet ANOTHER advanced ancient civilization, and it's even MORE Ancientier than the rest!".

Feel free to think whatever you like, but an objective measurement of story quality it ain't.

We are unlikely to ever agree on how the writers should handle these situations

Nor should we have to.

Forums are to discuss opinions. Even if those opinions differ. It's not for slowly developing a hivemind.

You can feel free to have whatever opinion you want, but I do appreciate that you went out of your way to provide us with your own proposed endings. I just don't think they're very good. And that's my opinion, just like you have yours.

I like how Aveyond's argument is "it's boring that all of these nations are written to go from monarchy to democracy every time," and the counterargument is "well everything in the writing perfectly justifies the writing's direction!" No shit, of course it does. They wrote it that way on purpose, of course it'll contains all sorts of justifications for its endings. It didn't have to be that way from conception, but they decided to make it so. That doesn't negate Aveyond's argument, it's just restating their issue from another angle but this time with your opinion applied to it.

I mean, I guess, excuse me for believing that the way a storyarc wraps up should follow the themes, character motivations and tone of the story. For example, if the entire point of Vauthry is that he's a hedonist who doesn't care about the future, is likely immortal, and believes that everyone should just party until the world ends....what part of this character indicates, "You know, the writers should have given him an heir"? Granted, I know he said he was mostly fine with Eulmore's finale...but my point is that changes have to make sense in context. Even if we change the context completely and go with, "Well, they shouldn't have written Eulmore to be about those themes at all", then we're basically talking about a story so different from the original that it's literally fan-fiction.

Same thing with Garlemald. We've been told since 1.0 that Garlemald's political situation is so unstable that Varis barely holds on to his power, and even a hint of a power vacuum will turn bloody. So, I don't particularly find it a "problem" when that's exactly what happens. Notice that we had to pretty much insert Princess Anastasia into the story to create the type of conclusion aveyond prefers.