What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Midareyukki]

It's actually a common tactic and one I've dealt with over on the lore forum quite often. Where valid points will be 'questioned' with some comment from another thread by a completely different poster. As if there can't be multiple reasons why someone opposes a particular situation or character.

What's interesting is that this sniping often comes from the very same posters who demand to be explicitly catered to if they happen to be 'uncomfortable' with a particular situation or character themselves.

On my end, if people like G'raha? Fair enough! More power to those that do and I'm happy to agree to disagree on the matter. I'm not going to pretend as the writing and behaviour of the character isn't tied to my criticism of Endwalker though because he very much is.

He's just another bunch of pixels on the screen at the end of the day and as we know, a decent amount of people like Meteion and Venat. It just comes across as hypocritical to me to declare those two 'fair game' but G'raha as a problem to criticise.

Honestly, I only have one question. Especially given your final sentence there.

Why are we discussing G'raha?

Like... Sure, fine, okay, he has writing-derived flaws, not everyone accepts that he does, some people outright hate him for it, other people want him to have more focus due to it. And some deny he has any whatsoever. Whatever floats eachother's.

...but this is a thread on Endwalker's story. No Scion, other than maybe Estinien, underwent that much in terms of character development in Endwalker. Just establishing who they are after their individual and collective progresses from 2.0 to 6.0. There isn't that much to pick on other than that, for any of the Scions.

And that's the thing. Admitting there's flaws and wanting "more" isn't necessarily a bad thing. Even people who like the characters are allowed to express that... but why did we start picking on G'raha when his character is on the same bag as others who just got "established at the endline"?

To be clear, my line of question marks (which I will repeat: ?????????) reflects jumping into a conversation revolving around questioning an attempting specific comparison between two characters' specific behavior, acting like an argument is made saying something that wasn't - that the character has no flaws and their writing can't be questioned - and then, in a thread where most posters here have regularly criticized the writing, putting forth that they're probably the types who will accept anything and are therefore not qualified to argue, out of nowhere.

I am "what"-ing at the complete non-sequitor and derailment. If you want to discuss places where I think the writing and handling of G'raha's character fall short, I'd be happy to do so. I have problems with him, and the way that the plot handles him overall, that I could talk about, too. But the discussion taking place at the moment had, you know, context - whether liking G'raha's feelings for the WoL and disliking Magnai's behavior constitutes as a double standard. And if you're upset that people are pointing out comments have been made about G'raha based on his appearance and mannerisms as part of what fuels their dislike for him, then if that doesn't apply to you, then cool. There's no need to get defensive or assume it's about you.

AH OKAY.

You see what happens when you COMMUNICATE with people rather than acting like a Bad Girls reject? People actually understand your grievance with them. FUNNY HOW THAT HAPPENS, EH?

Sorry, I don't speak Question Mark. I, like you I hope unless you're a Dalek and you're not telling me, speak English. Not vague... whatever that was.

Anyway, my grievance with you was saying

It's just not reflective of hypocrisy or flawed writing or much else beyond "it doesn't appeal to my tastes." Which you are free to say!

Which is just not true. If we go by the idea that everything is subjective and no flaw can be criticised because it's just not something that appeals to tastes, then we can't provide feedback or improve on a product. There ARE things that are wrong, even in writing, that people should pay attention to. That's what I was referring to.

Maybe stop being so bitter. It will age you.