What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Rulakir]

It's not gatekeeping to want the thread to stay on topic, which seems to be increasingly difficult these days. So glad we got that shout out from Zepla since the thread hasn't gone back to normal since.

[Brinne]

To be clear, my line of question marks (which I will repeat: ?????????) reflects jumping into a conversation revolving around questioning an attempting specific comparison between two characters' specific behavior, acting like an argument is made saying something that wasn't - that the character has no flaws and their writing can't be questioned - and then, in a thread where most posters here have regularly criticized the writing, putting forth that they're probably the types who will accept anything and are therefore not qualified to argue, out of nowhere.

I am "what"-ing at the complete non-sequitor and derailment. If you want to discuss places where I think the writing and handling of G'raha's character fall short, I'd be happy to do so. I have problems with him, and the way that the plot handles him overall, that I could talk about, too. But the discussion taking place at the moment had, you know, context - whether liking G'raha's feelings for the WoL and disliking Magnai's behavior constitutes as a double standard. And if you're upset that people are pointing out comments have been made about G'raha based on his appearance and mannerisms as part of what fuels their dislike for him, then if that doesn't apply to you, then cool. There's no need to get defensive or assume it's about you.

[Lunaxia]

It's not gatekeeping to want the thread to stay on topic, which seems to be increasingly difficult these days. So glad we got that shout out from Zepla since the thread hasn't gone back to normal since.

I don't see how it differs to the treatment given to Venat in this thread. It's criticism of a prominent character in Endwalker, and in relation to that, the writing overall. Just because opinions are more split over this particular character doesn't make it any more off topic.

And if you're upset that people are pointing out comments have been made about G'raha based on his appearance and mannerisms as part of what fuels their dislike for him, then if that doesn't apply to you, then cool. There's no need to get defensive or assume it's about you.

I get the impression this is fundamentally a lot of peoples' problem with G'raha, and most everything else is looking for more reasonable-sounding justification after the fact.

Come now, it's a bit underhand to insinuate I'm getting defensive when you made such a sweeping blanket statement about anyone who criticises him, really.

Honestly, I only have one question. Especially given your final sentence there.

Why are we discussing G'raha?

Because several pages ago, someone asked for opinions about him.

[Brinne]

Come now, it's a bit underhand to insinuate I'm getting defensive when you made such a sweeping blanket statement about anyone who criticises him, really.

Perhaps I should have said "some people" instead of "a lot of people?" I can agree with that, and I'll try to be more careful in the future.