Quote Originally Posted by Lucida3b View Post
However I feel the complaints are representative of a larger issue where venat/EW plotpoints resulted in a 'damn bursting' effect where everyone is looknig back and is agitated at things they didnt find as much as a issue in the past and so on.
I'd agree with this. I didn't have a problem with the Scions before EW, but after another expansion with no character change or growth, invincible plot armor, and sanctimonious speeches I just can't be bothered with them anymore. I do still like some, but they all suffer from this.

Plus, when you have the civilization of the antagonists from the previous expansion, who we utterly decimated, continue to be used as emotional manipulation because the writers won't touch the Scions (they have to squeeze those tears from somewhere) it just starts to feel gross.

I wanted the sundered to develop empathy and an appreciation for what the unsundered went through only for the Final Days to be virtually nothing to them outside of a couple of zones. The Scions aren't forced to make the same difficult choices the Convocation did.

We're also led to believe that the Ancients were always doomed and because of that players weren't forced to consider the actions of Venat or Hermes because what did it matter? They were all going to want to kill themselves in the future anyway. I felt this removed much needed gravity from the situation. We definitely should not have come away from the purposeful eradication of a people and civilization feeling good about it and like they had been done a favor.

Going from that tragedy to the overt comic relief, IMO, inappropriately thrust into story beats that should have remained heavy (like the lopporits) felt like the writers were trying to make light of these situations and I didn't appreciate it. I felt like a lot of what should've been a serious, thought provoking narrative was undermined on multiple fronts.