Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
Strange, what I said didn't seem controversial, yet four people posting to tell me I'm wrong in 13 minutes? o.O

Xirean: Where did I say people had no reasons behind being upset? People are SELDOM upset for absolutely no reason.

Avayond: I'm not exactly one prone to bouts of emotion. I can see a story has weakness while recognizing it isn't horribly bad or irredeemable because of it. There's emotionless analysis of a story and then there's (negative) emotion influenced analysis. You seem to be doing the latter while trying to claim that you're doing the former since the latter seems significantly less respectable. Anyone with a negative outlook can FIND things to dislike in even the best of stories and artistic, literary, or musical works. Don't mistake negative analysis driven by emotion to be superior to positive analysis driven by emotion.

Kazhar: Judging by what I've read of this thread, it appears to be more the echo chamber than most. That said, I feel a lot of forums end up being echo chambers. But I'm in several FFXIV casual discords (which are not - people complain about things there), follow several content creators (not all of who loved EW), and am aware of EW's critical acclaim and overall success. This thread seems far more likely to be an echo chamber than me looking holistically at the rest.

Xeronia: True about Reddit, the downvotes don't even have to be rational and brigading is...frequent. But reading my post, what made you think I was suggestion you had no right or were wrong to dislike EW? As I just said a bit ago in the thread on EW being "the most controversial expansion", I'll say again here: People can have different subjective opinions and that's perfectly fine. It does become a problem when people start thinking their subjective opinions are objective truths as well as when it lends to forming echo chambers. Bringing up concerns is fine. I didn't say otherwise. It's just this new "EW is a horrible expansion with a mediocre to horrible story" is just shockingly out of touch to me. I can understand people disliking some aspects of it, but EW was not a horrible story by any means. The main issues are as I noted with things like pacing and the Ultima weirdness.

Though I really did like the Omega quest, but I love that stuff in general, so I recognize not everyone might.
Oh I didn't mean you, again in general that is the responses I see, I apologize I am running on like 4 hours of sleep due to someone in my house needing help this morning. EW is not a horrible story by any means and I do see why people would love it but the main themes just missed me really hard and then upon reflection I didn't like what it did to a lot of characters.