What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Skyborne]

It would actually be liable to make things worse in the long run as you'd potentially have people as powerful as the Ancients being the norm, but without their moral compass and unity to prevent strife and we already saw how badly Hermes on his own was able to mess things up without even really intending to originally.

Still once more a shame that Elpis was mainly just a main story prop for a couple levels and we never got much of a glimpse of their history or how the original 14 came to be leaders. Their culture was formed around unity/preventing strife and suppressing their darker natures, as hinted to by that one Amaurotine shade that tells you to dress properly, so there must've been some fireworks flying around at some point...

Also, throw me in the pile of "wish there was some way to rejoin that doesn't involve cataclysmic disasters" since 5.0. If we can suddenly cure tempering with funny pigs and suddenly all of the "Alliance" and beast tribes are all holding hands and singing, well...

Nah, this thread is pretty deranged. I agree with a lot of what they say which is why I come here but I also have to be honest. You're talking to a self-declared "proud rejoiner" and they're not the only ones who think Ascian genocide is good and the sundered shouldn't be allowed to exist, despite hundreds of pages discussing why Venat committed genocide and that makes her a villain. Again, I agree with the point on Venat which is why I come here, but instead of combatting hypocrisy it seems the latest trend is being just as much of a hypocrite in the other direction.

There exist ascian fans/villain fans who are miffed that one type is misdeed is swept under the carpet and its perpetrator praised in glowing sparkling terms with the developers telling us she isn't a bad guy, while the other type(which is intended to remedy the former) is treated as what it is. I know, I know! Just lock me up irl, I am far too dangerous.