What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[KizuyaKatogami]

I actually disagree with this assessment.

I enjoyed the fact that the story made me give a measure of respect to a character I once disliked a great deal. I like the fact that, by Endwalker, he is actually pretty unimportant/not really a priority to the WoL - he realises this and decides to not let that bother him. Whilst everyone else is pondering the meaning of happiness, here is a guy who found it and knows that all he needs to learn is how to reach it. And he does, because when Alisaie calls him out, he listens.

And he was right about us, when he identified our 'Adventurer' roots. and recognized that we were heroes through circumstance and a need to do the right thing, rather than choice, and the way we fight reflects that. I feel the only answer that wasn't dishonest was "That, I can't deny" (and the grin that my character gave when she said that is one of best things my character has ever done) when he tells us he knows what we are.

I have to add that I truly enjoyed the fight. We were never really on equal terms with him until this fight, and due to that he truly doesn't hold anything back. He pours everything he is in that fight and so do we. Two souls burning their absolute hottest and brightest - the greatest joy Zenos has ever known and the only joy he can ever share, in stark contrast to the theme of despair that the 'zone' had been about.

The thing is though….we did all of this already. It’s boring and stale. We fought him solo, numerous times including the final fight. He was so content that he took his own life. Why bring him back only to repeat literally the same exact story line that added absolutely nothing to the overall story arc besides take up time that could’ve been spent towards yknow….the two main deities this arc has revolved around?

[BaconBits]

The Ancients whipped up Zodiark with virtually no prep time. A Creation so powerful, he kept Eitherys shielded for 12k years, while sundered at that.

Imagine what they could do if they weren't hindered by a lack of information.

[RyuDragnier]

The Ancients whipped up Zodiark with virtually no prep time. A Creation so powerful, he kept Eitherys shielded for 12k years, while sundered at that.

Imagine what they could do if they weren't hindered by a lack of information.

DID they just whip up Zodiark with no prep time? Or was he already a concept they pulled out and modified to fit this purpose? Unanswered questions here, hopefully answered in Pandaemonium (probably not).

[Lauront]

The thing is though….we did all of this already. It’s boring and stale. We fought him solo, numerous times including the final fight. He was so content that he took his own life. Why bring him back only to repeat literally the same exact story line that added absolutely nothing to the overall story arc besides take up time that could’ve been spent towards yknow….the two main deities this arc has revolved around?

Plus there's other characters who like to brawl, who I'd much sooner brawl with rather than him. He's better than the Scions, but this stuff about being some mirror etc.? Maybe one of those you find in a fun house.