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    Quote Originally Posted by CrownySuccubus View Post
    Not what "gaslighting" means, but okay.
    Given that both myself and others posting within this thread have dealt with weird personal attacks and death threats for expressing fondness for both the Ascian and Garlemald story over the years that we've played this game, I'm actually well aware of what gaslighting consists of.

    I'm referring to comments such as this:

    Quote Originally Posted by CrownySuccubus View Post
    Nothing is wrong with "liking" Garlemald per se, but you and Aveyond both do have a pretty strong romanticization of the country and its militarism that goes well beyond just a "villains are cool" viewpoint.
    A deliberate attempt to attribute something deeper than what is actually there to justify standing upon a podium to lecture everybody about complex ideological issues. You do you, though not everybody posting here wants to drag such issues into everything. They just want to appreciate a cool story at the end of the day.

    I'd even argue that it's not even relevant to the thread itself, which is primarily about the actual and perceived issues with Endwalker's story. Policing people's personal tastes and preferences does not serve to make for a healthy discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Given that both myself and others posting within this thread have dealt with weird personal attacks and death threats for expressing fondness for both the Ascian and Garlemald story over the years that we've played this game, I'm actually well aware of what gaslighting consists of.

    I'm referring to comments such as this:
    So you DON'T know what gaslighting is.

    Gaslighting is the attempt to make someone doubt their own memory or mental faculties through deception.

    What I did was make an observation. It's a fact that you romanticize the country. You proceeded to defend them by doing just that: romanticizing their actions as non-villainous. So you basically proved what I claimed to be correct.

    I repeat: you can feel free to like what you like. But others are also free to not agree with your reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrownySuccubus View Post
    So you DON'T know what gaslighting is.

    Gaslighting is the attempt to make someone doubt their own memory or mental faculties through deception.

    What I did was make an observation. It's a fact that you romanticize the country. You proceeded to defend them by doing just that: romanticizing their actions as non-villainous. So you basically proved what I claimed to be correct.

    I repeat: you can feel free to like what you like. But others are also free to not agree with your reasons.
    This is not the point of this thread. Please drop the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    This is not the point of this thread. Please drop the subject.
    If someone replies to me or posts something about what I did or didn't say, I'm going to answer.

    That besides, we are talking about the fate of Garlemald, which is directly about the plot of Endwalker.
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    Last edited by CrownySuccubus; 04-09-2022 at 01:09 AM.