Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
I enjoy story discussion, however when every story discussion turns into pro venat vs anti venat and overlooks the myriad of other issues with the story it gets a bit annoying. I find the ancients (including Venat!) detrimental to the plot as a whole. I find the tribalism of the issue has hampered discussion since EW launched.
If this is happening over and over, then that means there's a genuine problem with the story.

Like I said, I've been playing a lot of Devil's Advocate in this thread for Venat, but I'm not blind to the fact that a lot of what's wrong with the story is directly tied to her and the plot's obsession with making her right. Even my main gripe with the story (The amounts of suffering fetishism, to the point of making laughable plot points like an advanced Alien race that kills themselves because of "perfection") only exists because the writers need to claim Venat was "right".