Quote Originally Posted by Skyborne View Post
When I got to the Moon with the Watcher basically admitting that yes, Hydaelyn did constantly lie about basically everything... but it was for a good cause!
Man, my "most Venat-friendly" friend actually immediately said when that came up: "Um, isn't that exactly Thordan's logic? And at the time he was bad for it?" And then we joked a while about how Ilberd is clearly Hydaelyn's real Warrior of Light, because he aligns with her ideology and her methods perfectly, and furthermore, Ilberd Feare has probably won harder than any other FFXIV character ever has, in the long run.

Then I started vaguely thinking about how Hydaelyn and her motivations were, in fact, a weird amalgamation of all major FFXIV villains up until that point (save maybe Nidhogg?), only with those traits framed now as being "good". The rabbit hole deepens. My steps towards full Fandaniel-ization hastens.