What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Chasingstars]

You're basically complaining about what the Ascians did, ignoring all the context behind it.

No I explained the context behind it. You are sticking fingers in your ears because you don't want to believe.

And sorry but if the Ascians are a "terrorist" organisation, what does that make her, who sundered their people and the star?

A person who saved the star and prevented their own people, the ancients, in future generations from being used as sacrifices to help power the machine that is Zodiark.

she enabled this, so if they're to blame, so is she.

Group of people who murdered millions of people across the 14 worlds VS person who created the 14 worlds. You going to side with the mass murderers on this? Fascinating.

If someone tried to lobotomise me or maim me because they thought my life could do with a bit more suffering, yes, I'd have a problem with that.

So if someone tempered you, would have a problem with that? So you would have a problem with the Ascians. As that is their shtick.

[Lauront]

No I explained the context behind it. You are sticking fingers in your ears because you don't want to believe.

Nah, you're not "explaining" anything, so lose the patronising tone. You're trying to list out the actions of the Ascians while ignoring what set those in motion. We're all familiar with what the Ascians did. You're not addressing the fact that she allowed for this.

She genocided her people and allowed Emet-Selch to escape the sundering while never being explained to why this was all happening, so she basically set in motion what would become the Ascians. Her goal in sundering the world has nothing to do with stopping the sacrifices as such, because they were not interminable; it is because of her belief that her people would end up like the Plenty, and secondarily, to enable easier manipulation of dynamis.

Group of people who murdered millions of people across the 14 worlds VS person who created the 14 worlds. You going to side with the mass murderers on this? Fascinating.

Worlds created through genocide of the ancients, yes. Let us look at it this way. If Hydaelyn rocked up in front of the Scions, told them they had to be sundered because, lo after all these thousands of years, she's now decided they're still too wed to the notion of improving the world through "better tomorrows", and not to worry, because even though this would end them as a species, more life would spring out of it, what do you think the answer would be? Maybe something like this?

So if someone tempered you, would have a problem with that? So you would have a problem with the Ascians. As that is their shtick.

If you're here to whine about the Ascians, go find some other tree to bark up. We're aware of what the Ascians got up to.

[Chasingstars]

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For the current timeline, the main timeline, to exist, everything had to proceed without interruption. Checkmate bub.

[Lauront]

For the current timeline, the main timeline, to exist, everything had to proceed without interruption. Checkmate bub.

You'd best tell her that:

Venat: We must find a way to defeat despair. To unite and prepare as many as possible for the struggle ahead.
Venat: Heavy will weigh the burden of guiding this legion of souls...
Venat: Yet I have faith in mankind's potential. As long as he believes in himself, there is naught he cannot achieve. So I will not give up on him. On us.
Venat: You may find your world to be very different. Or perhaps the erasure of our friends' memories has sown the seeds of a conjunction between us.
Venat: We cannot know until the moment is at hand. So shall I strive to do my best, taking naught for granted as I walk my path.

But by that logic, everything the Ascians do is essential and necessary as well.

Checkmate "bub".

At this point I get the impression you really aren't going to engage with any arguments and are just here to preach. Not interested.