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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    So, expectations for the LL tomorrow?
    We’re gonna get some fluff about thanking all of the super nice npcs that helped us in EW and give them muffins and throw a super kawaii party for them. Then we’re gonna go to sharlayan and have a small tidbit quest where we get to watch Yshtola talk to some of the teachers there and just be absolutely smarter than any of them and have a funny haha moment where they get annoyed with her and she gets super smug. Then we’re gonna get some urgent news about some dragons or garleans and the dungeons will be an early visit to corvos or meracydia and the blasphemy problem will be completely solved with barely a mention. Oh and Graha at some point will start getting all sparkly eyed and worshipping us and Estinien and doing his uwu adorable ear wiggle when he gets excited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    We’re gonna get some fluff about thanking all of the super nice npcs that helped us in EW and give them muffins and throw a super kawaii party for them. Then we’re gonna go to sharlayan and have a small tidbit quest where we get to watch Yshtola talk to some of the teachers there and just be absolutely smarter than any of them and have a funny haha moment where they get annoyed with her and she gets super smug. Then we’re gonna get some urgent news about some dragons or garleans and the dungeons will be an early visit to corvos or meracydia and the blasphemy problem will be completely solved with barely a mention. Oh and Graha at some point will start getting all sparkly eyed and worshipping us and Estinien and doing his uwu adorable ear wiggle when he gets excited.
    This describes the likeliest sequence of events for the 6.1 MSQ. Ideally, I would have liked to be introduced to our new main party members this patch in order to replace some of the more stagnant scions. I would have liked to go into 7.0 with a party composed of the spiritual successors to Venat, Hades, and Hythlodaeus and kept as few scions along as possible.

    We could have used this interlude leading up to 7.0 to get to know our new cast members in "campfire-after-the-battle" scenes as opposed to slice of life college scenes in Sharlayan. We could visit the now retired scions and check up on them as the world starts showing signs of the next major threat, likely the void or some unforseen side effect of leaving the world bereft of its two main gods.

    A priority for the writing would be to ensure that new cast members contrast with each other well through various means, from hair color to personality and homeland. Another important point would be to logically re-establish dominant supernatural forces in the world to contend with later on, which would eventually converge upon the main setting of 7.0 and drive the conflict there.

    The interlude should also highlight the most visually distinct of FFXIV's zones, like the Azim Steppe, Dravanian Forelands, and deal with Garlemald in such a way that the country is put on a road to recovery that doesn't end in it becoming another Ishgard/Ala Mhigo-like republic. A new emperor or even empress would be crowned, and even one of the new main party members could be Garlean.

    Leading into 7.0 we would go on to a location rich in high fantasy and European aesthetics, for a grounded adventure on the scale of Heavensward. Future antagonists would lean towards "human" and have reasonable motives like Emet-Selch, Ardyn, etc. Direct moralizing would be kept to an absolute minimum, with in-game actions speaking and getting through to people in ways that endless speeches never could.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    The interlude should also highlight the most visually distinct of FFXIV's zones, like the Azim Steppe, Dravanian Forelands, and deal with Garlemald in such a way that the country is put on a road to recovery that doesn't end in it becoming another Ishgard/Ala Mhigo-like republic. A new emperor or even empress would be crowned, and even one of the new main party members could be Garlean.

    Leading into 7.0 we would go on to a location rich in high fantasy and European aesthetics, for a grounded adventure on the scale of Heavensward. Future antagonists would lean towards "human" and have reasonable motives like Emet-Selch, Ardyn, etc. Direct moralizing would be kept to an absolute minimum, with in-game actions speaking and getting through to people in ways that endless speeches never could.
    And what better location for a high fantasy European Aesthetic then Ilsabard. You will certainly not get it with Meracydia or the New World and it is to soon to visit another shard, we just got back and need to explore more of the source. I have talked about three zones they could do for this before but let me do it in more detail.

    I mentioned a zone inspired by Germany, Austria and Switzerland (something hinted at existing with the Bergsteiger's and Dirndl's Attires) which visually could play a role similar to 1.0 Ishgard now that it is all frozen with Windmills, rolling green valleys, fields of flowers, distant snowcapped mountains, and a very Studio Ghibli inspired visual Aesthetic.

    The Scandinavian inspired zone i mentioned could have fjords, Viking longhouses, snowy forests, Aurora's in the sky at night, etc. For inspiration look to Skyrim, the recent God of War or even the Witcher 3.

    The final zone I mentioned was one based off of Romania and they could just go all out with this one. I would put Gothic Garlean architecture inspired by the Royal palace before it was destroyed perhaps intermelled with more traditional Gothic architecture. For inspirations with this zone Obviously look to Castlevania and maybe Bloodbourne as well.

    They could also add more Mediterranean inspired zones like maybe Werlyt Proper or the long hinted at Corvos. If they want to mix things up they can even throw in a desert zone ruins of the Caspian Sea in Metro Exodus.

    I am not saying these zones should be complete one for one copies of real world cultures and nations but instead should build off of them like Thravnir.

    This would also allow further Garlean Development to be salvaged after their expansion got gutted to rush the finale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrightfulNight View Post
    And what better location for a high fantasy European Aesthetic then Ilsabard. You will certainly not get it with Meracydia or the New World and it is to soon to visit another shard, we just got back and need to explore more of the source. I have talked about three zones they could do for this before but let me do it in more detail.

    I mentioned a zone inspired by Germany, Austria and Switzerland (something hinted at existing with the Bergsteiger's and Dirndl's Attires) which visually could play a role similar to 1.0 Ishgard now that it is all frozen with Windmills, rolling green valleys, fields of flowers, distant snowcapped mountains, and a very Studio Ghibli inspired visual Aesthetic.

    The Scandinavian inspired zone i mentioned could have fjords, Viking longhouses, snowy forests, Aurora's in the sky at night, etc. For inspiration look to Skyrim, the recent God of War or even the Witcher 3.

    The final zone I mentioned was one based off of Romania and they could just go all out with this one. I would put Gothic Garlean architecture inspired by the Royal palace before it was destroyed perhaps intermelled with more traditional Gothic architecture. For inspirations with this zone Obviously look to Castlevania and maybe Bloodbourne as well.

    They could also add more Mediterranean inspired zones like maybe Werlyt Proper or the long hinted at Corvos. If they want to mix things up they can even throw in a desert zone ruins of the Caspian Sea in Metro Exodus.

    I am not saying these zones should be complete one for one copies of real world cultures and nations but instead should build off of them like Thravnir.

    This would also allow further Garlean Development to be salvaged after their expansion got gutted to rush the finale.
    I could be easily convinced to purchase an expansion that focuses on zones like the ones you describe here. Corvos and other former imperial territories would be the first logical option for where to place these locations in FFXIV's world, though Meracydia could still be home to similar kingdoms if they take inspiration from FFIX's Mist Continent, which is in a similar geographic location but was not made out to be Australia in that game.

    However, I can imagine what the community reaction may be if they did such a thing, with my previous thread outlining a Meracydia expansion revolving around a kingdom roughly analogous to Cornelia or Alexandria being criticized for not having enough "indigenous inspiration" if I remember correctly. There is a massive disconnect between those players and what most FF players seem to gravitate towards in the games they actually purchase.
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