What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[KageTokage]

In this case, it's the same thing.

As I said, the writers were trying to convey the idea that a life without suffering is either impossible or delusional. That's the entire reason we see the Ancients during the Final Days panicking and longing to go back to the way things were. The argument is that, without a life of suffering to make them "stronger", the Ancients were ill-prepared for when it finally came. Thus, they were doomed to fall into even more delusional and blissfully-ignorant dreams of "utopia" if they ever got their paradise back.

I could spend all day unpacking the faults with this philosophy, why it doesn't quite work as the writers intended, and why it's potentially harmful, but my point at the moment is just to explain why, to the story's logic, the Ancients were painted as "delusional".

I am still bothered by the sudden shift in focus from "Sacrificing more lives is bad" to "Not being able to cope with the loss of friends and loved ones is bad".

Confirmation that the Ancients who gave their lives to summon Zodiark were trapped in a state between life and death just made the desire to bring them back seem all the more justified, as being unable to return to the star in a society where doing such was seen as a beautiful fulfillment of one's life and purpose and a privilege would've been profoundly disturbing to them. Tellingly, Elidibus sounds relieved upon hearing that they were finally able to have their peace after Zodiark was destroyed.

Now, if they had been intending to undo all of the damage from the Final Days, including reviving those who had been killed by the disasters and beasts, then would've felt a lot more delusional and like a collapse of their society's values.

They were noted as having unfortunate "work accidents" from time to time, but it seems like they largely just accepted it and moved on and I think as long as they utilized creation magicks some level of suffering was going to be present in their lives.