Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
The ancients issue is that they couldn't let go. If they had just accepted their losses, learned from it, and strived to be better then they never would have been sundered.

The writing was on the wall. They had to be sundered because of their arrogance, inability to let go, and desire to never change or accept consequences.
I think such framing is rather deceptive. Venat chose to stand by idly and allow the Final Days to happen. After such inaction, she had very little business trying to enforce the outcome that she wanted to occur. Zodiark was a necessity in order to fix the damage inflicted by the Final Days and the Ancients not wanting their loved ones to be trapped eternally inside of Zodiark is also completely understandable and far from unreasonable.

The Ancients weren't under any obligation to bend over and conform to Venat's wishes when she was operating in bad faith and never intended to speak of her concerns or inform them of Meteion's existence. Blaming the Ancients for not 'moving on' is strange to me as well. As if people are supposed to just allow some random, unhinged individual to allow harm to befall their loved ones and deny them the ability to resolve the situation.

Had the Sundering been an accident and not a deliberate act then Venat might have come out of Endwalker looking better than she does in the eyes of many. Especially if she had been hit by the same mind wipe that affected Hythlodaeus, Hermes and Emet-Selch.