What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Kozh]

You realize the unsundered didn't suffer more about their final days because we kinda stopped them, right?. Had we stopped them too late, they would be at the exact same point as the amaurotians. Not to mention the Amaurotians didn't get 7 Calamities (8 if we count those in the alternate timeline) unlike the sundered did, thanks in no small part to the remaining Ascians that were suffering severe withdrawal on copium.

But let's keep the competition? Why would we make like, um, sharks with legs? Well, because sharks. With legs. Shark. With. Legs. Peak caring for life. And the colliseum drives it home, because it shows that anyone who's living the good life care very little about what's below him. Just like Ul'dah rich people do, so do Amaurotians. That's why Fandaniel goes full ape shit to begin with. Remember his flashbacks? In his mind, then and now were the same to him. C

And the funeral rites... who do you think they learned them from? From us. The sundered heros who come from the future.

The hell does shark with leg do with the discussion Jesus christ. Next you gonna complain about horse having wings, I presume?

This is what happen when you argue with someone who's relating the game every little thing to real life situation. And also seems to have basic misunderstanding of the discussed topic.

The Ancients isn't "playing" Gods. Because they are the gods of ethyris. Unlike the sundered who sometimes kill creatures just because they can, the unsundered hates mindless violence. They literally said it on one of the sidequest. They have such moderation in lifestyle that sometimes they don't eat because they think it's an indulgence.

Those "creature" they let dissipate are concepts. It's sad to kill them, but compared, like, 20-50 creatures killed versus the whole species (can be hundreds or thousands individue) died if they were released to the wilds, what the Ancients did is more "humane". And they mourn those loves lost, hence the spot called "mourning dew". And yes, this has been the way even before the WoL come.

Frankly, as researcher, if I have that "delete" spell, I would use it instead of inflicting more pain to my mice even in they're under anesthesia.

[BokoToloko]

The hell does shark with leg do with the discussion Jesus christ. Next you gonna complain about horse having wings, I presume?

This is what happen when you argue with someone who's relating the game every little thing to real life situation. And also seems to have basic misunderstanding of the discussed topic.

The Ancients isn't "playing" Gods. Because they are the gods of ethyris. Unlike the sundered who sometimes kill creatures just because they can, the unsundered hates mindless violence. They literally said it on one of the sidequest. They have such moderation in lifestyle that sometimes they don't eat because they think it's an indulgence.

Those "creature" they let dissipate are concepts. It's sad to kill them, but compared, like, 20-50 creatures killed versus the whole species (can be hundreds or thousands individue) died if they were released to the wilds, what the Ancients did is more "humane". And they mourn those loves lost, hence the spot called "mourning dew". And yes, this has been the way even before the WoL come.

Frankly, as researcher, if I have that "delete" spell, I would use it instead of inflicting more pain to my mice even in they're under anesthesia.

What any decent researcher would've done to begin with is not starting to create new species left and right from the start. And regarding shark with legs, it's not any more contrived than going with "See that species of a forgotten area no one cares and how they died to bad adventurers? Boom. Ancients 1 - Sundered 0"

And for a species that hates violences, the Ascians would have a word with you. The species renounce violence is a flawed statement because they don't even NEED to, at the given time. But when push comes to shove, you just need to look at Ascians, who are STILL Ancients (or part of one) or how they're willing to sacrifice half a planet's life just because they can't cope with a sacrifice they themselves made and prefer other life to pay the price, and are so hellbent on restoring things the way the were and act like nothing happened. Does that suddenly make the sundered better? Hell, no. But seeing this then arguing the Ancients are the idyllic creatures we take them for is just delusion.

They have such "moderation", because they just CAN'T deal with those situations. Remember the dragons in Ultima Thule and how they deal with conflict? That's the kind of "moderation" you see, just more extreme and in a suicidal way. And it doesn't end at eating, they also hide their own individuality to avoid conflict. That's not moderation, that's self-renounciation. Rather than solve conflicts as they appear, they prefer to sacrifice in order to run away from them.

And the mourning dew falls flat once you look back at Hermes and when he critizices this very thing, the answer he get is, in short, "It is what it is, it's a pity, but it's not a big deal".