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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicno View Post
    The implication that "perfect is bad" is hard to shake off when they show different societies which reached different states of "fulfillment", "enlightenment", "perfection", "immortality", etc. and they all "reached" a catastrophic end (in some cases by nothing more than the power of the writer's pen imo and not a natural progression of events). Not a single one managed to keep living their lives. How can you shake off the implication that reaching such a state is indeed a bad thing with such representation?

    But to be completely honest all those societies feel very manufactured for the sole purpose of beign lectured by our cast of protagonists from a position as imperfect beings. It doesn't even matter if their speech made any sense or not. The point is "these imperfect beigns are lecturing far more perfect or powerful beings, validating Venat's decision to make the world as imperfect as possible". I'll agree that the true message isn't "perfect is bad" but as others have said earlier in the thread it's "not being on the protagonists side is bad".
    of course they seem manufactured, meition created them from what she could salvage and pieced it all together. it's all gonna slant toward her(their) personal experiences rather than anything that's actually happened because it's been stated time and time again that memories are wiped when you die and return to the aether, excluding of course the people who temporarily linger because they feel they have not completed an important task in life which, again would shift the narrative toward something negative.

    everyone is forgetting here that hermes threw literal 3 week old children into the cosmos and told them to find an answer to a question that couldn't actually be answered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denji View Post
    of course they seem manufactured, meition created them from...
    No, what I mean by "manufactured" is that the hand of the writer is so heavy you can almost see their fingernails on the screen. Even accounting for discrepancies in Meteion's reproductions it's clear that the intent is to show how our "sundered", "imperfect", etc. beings can find more meaning in life than them, who reached the pinnacle of whatever it is they wanted to achieve (except for the dragons). That having the main cast prevail over them is proof of their determination, principles, etc. and that Venat was "right" in creating such beings.
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    Last edited by Sicno; 02-03-2022 at 07:23 AM.
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    ...Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.
    Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113554 at 1:14:22