What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Kozh]

It's not about the world or the people. It's about what the sundering actually did. If it was killing people, then it wouldn't make sense for Venat to think that "mankind" continued on, and even the concept of the source is unclear from that perspective.

If "mankind" means human, not arcane constructs nor beastial creatures born from concepts, of course it can be said that mankind continued on. The problem is that She did erase a whole race and replace it with new race. Similar enough in physical but not the same one.

How you still not understand the concept of sundering is beyond me. She halve their soul, lifespan, etc. 14 times, causing them to forget their unsundered life and revert them to cavemen, how is that not killing someone?

As if knowing means being able to stop them.

Considering how quick she gave up on her own people, forgive me for doubting her inaction when the shards are being rejoined.

No, you're just pretentious enough to think it's better to be mad on behalf of long dead people against the being that ensured our survival.

So now it's "long dead people"? I thought you said the sundering didn't kill anyone?

As I've said, though, you can disagree with Venat's choice, but she made it, and we've benefitted from that decision made in the past.

I never deny this. I just hate how the game frame her as benevolent, tragic heroine. No matter how much she said "I'm not a good person", it falls apart when every npc still act like she's the "Mother" and even we as the player doesn't get a single choice to scorn her decision.

[linayar]

If "mankind" means human, not arcane constructs nor beastial creatures born from concepts, of course it can be said that mankind continued on. The problem is that She did erase a whole race and replace it with new race. Similar enough in physical but not the same one.

How you still not understand the concept of sundering is beyond me. She halve their soul, lifespan, etc. 14 times, causing them to forget their unsundered life and revert them to cavemen, how is that not killing someone?

If the sundering is splitting the world, when did she replace one race by another race? To me, it seems more likely that the sundering caused an "evolution" of the Ancients into the existing races, potentially with a mixing with the new life created by Zodiark.

Considering how quick she gave up on her own people, forgive me for doubting her inaction when the shards are being rejoined.

She didn't just give up on them. She disagreed with them.

So now it's "long dead people"? I thought you said the sundering didn't kill anyone?

As far as I know, all of them have died long ago. I don't remember anyone saying the sundering killed them even if the sundering did cause them to have shorter lifespan.

I never deny this. I just hate how the game frame her as benevolent, tragic heroine. No matter how much she said "I'm not a good person", it falls apart when every npc still act like she's the "Mother" and even we as the player doesn't get a single choice to scorn her decision.

Again, because the story is told from our point of view, and she is all that to us. Just because she may have done something some people disagreed with in the past, it does not mean other people have to view her in that light.