What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Jandor]

Great comeback!
Yeah and he and the people he refers to are all dead long before they knew about her.
Hard to do better when you're dead.

Wait, you think when Emet says their methods would not have brought mankind this far, he means because they were already dead?

That's a fairly unique take.

[HollowedDoll]

Wait, you think when Emet says their methods would not have brought mankind this far, he means because they were already dead?

That's certainly different.

It's because they literally did not know of the threat's origin whatsoever, so like how could they have done better?

[Jandor]

It's because they literally did not know of the threat's origin whatsoever, so like how could they have done better?

He knows of the threats origin when he says that though, the threats origin is stood right in front of him, he was literally just talking to the threats origin before he says it.

At that point, he knows what they were facing, and he knows what they could have done, and his assessment of their chances is not good.

[HollowedDoll]

He knows of the threats origin when he says that though, the threats origin is stood right in front of him, he was literally just talking to the threats origin before he says it.

At that point, he knows what they were facing, and he knows what they could have done, and his assessment of their chances is not good.

Who cares that he knows at this point, they're literally all dead. They couldn't do better because they weren't even given the chance. Literally only Venat and the time-travelling WoL knew about Meteion, ergo there was no opportunity at all to do anything about it at any point while they were alive.

[Jandor]

Who cares that he knows at this point, they're literally all dead. They couldn't do better because they weren't even given the chance. Literally only Venat and the time-travelling WoL knew about Meteion, ergo there was no opportunity at all to do anything about it at any point while they were alive.

He's saying they wouldn't have succeeded even if they'd have had the opportunity to do something about it.

[ApolloGenX]

He's saying they wouldn't have succeeded even if they'd have had the opportunity to do something about it.

Hermes literally memwipes them to prevent them from chasing down and destroying Metion. There's no reason to believe they couldn't/wouldn't given knowledge of what happened. (Or at the very least prepare defense)

In fact, that act is evidence that they would, imo.

[Jandor]

Hermes literally memwipes them to prevent them from chasing down and destroying Metion. There's no reason to believe they couldn't/wouldn't given knowledge of what happened. (Or at the very least prepare defense)

In fact, that act is evidence that they would, imo.

I wouldn't say no reason. Emet gets the knowledge of what happened, and says they wouldn't have done as well. That's a pretty good reason to be fair.

For him to be wrong, we have to buy into the idea that he gets the knowledge of what happened, and the idea of just chasing down the Metia and destroying them never even occurs to him. That seems highly improbable.

[HappyHubris]

I wouldn't say no reason. Emet gets the knowledge of what happened, and says they wouldn't have done as well. That's a pretty good reason to be fair.

For him to be wrong, we have to buy into the idea that he gets the knowledge of what happened, and the idea of just chasing down the Metia and destroying them never even occurs to him. That seems highly improbable.

I took his comment as referring to their rejoining plan not succeeding, not the convocation being able to mitigate Meteion thousands of years ago with actual advance notice.

You should also note that the conversation was a pep talk to the WoL. If you're building up your champion to succeed, you're not going to start pointing fingers and second-guessing at that juncture. Of course the WoL will be told that her cause is just and righteous, the best and only option.