Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
Cute, but irrelevant. The story is what the story is, you don't have to like it, but wishing it was different doesn't actually make it so.

The Ancients couldn't win, you're outright told that. I would have personally preferred that it be reinforced with a little more explicit showing along the way, but they decided to go with mainly just telling us, and I struggle to think of a way they could have more explicitly told us without just breaking the 4th wall and literally telling us.
Its not exactly irrelevant. We're not outright told that. We're told they didnt win, where the circumstances were they didnt know what they were facing. We're shown they could in some ways manipulate dynamis.They had an entire facility that could literally help them hone said power. There's nothing pointing to the fact they couldnt have adapted and come together to combat Meteion. Considering they were able to create a being who could shield them from Meteion for thousands of years, one doesnt have to go through hoops to acknowledge they'd be able to find a way had they known the truth. You're banking your entire argument on one line of dialogue. Whereas we have numerous other lines of dialogue showing that they wouldve had a chance had Venat not banked everything on one person and instead trusted her own people. When the writing contradicts its own points then no its not irrelevant and i will call it out as such.Its just one of the many flaws of Endwalker and it seems more people are starting to acknowledge said flaws which is good. Wouldnt want more shoddy writing like this in the future anyhow. Better to call these problems out sooner rather than later. Not everyone is going to be captivated by fluff moment #269. Some people want to see actual in depth writing.