What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Ryaz]

They did this in Final Fantasy X as well, the game revelled in objectifying Rikku. Its not xenophobic to point out a pattern here.

Except they're not objectifying of Meteion in the game? There was nothing remotely sexual about her.

[ddwarbird]

Her voice is really creepy, her personality is the same "pathetic girl" trope you see in a lot of animes/games (Colette from Tales of Symphonia springs to mind). As soon as I saw her, I thought... Yeah, this girl is going to be a villain. They may not being objectifying but why have a character like that in the game at all? I found her creepy and rather annoying in Elpis. Her plot arc is essentially "becoming an emo because the universe isn't what you want it to be". Its really shallow if I'm honest... plus she isn't wearing any trousers.

[Ryaz]

Her voice is really creepy, her personality is the same "pathetic girl" trope you see in a lot of animes/games (Colette from Tales of Symphonia springs to mind). As soon as I saw her, I thought... Yeah, this girl is going to be a villain. They may not being objectifying but why have a character like that in the game at all? I found her creepy and rather annoying in Elpis. Her plot arc is essentially "becoming an emo because the universe isn't what you want it to be". Its really shallow if I'm honest... plus she isn't wearing any trousers.

You... really have the strangest complaints. It honestly feels like you're just reaching for things to hate about the game now.

[ddwarbird]

You... really have the strangest complaints. It honestly feels like you're just reaching for things to hate about the game now.

Not at all, I don't "hate" the game at all, but its not perfect either and some of its choices are very standard for Japanese games.

[van_arn]

Her voice is really creepy, her personality is the same "pathetic girl" trope you see in a lot of animes/games (Colette from Tales of Symphonia springs to mind). As soon as I saw her, I thought... Yeah, this girl is going to be a villain. They may not being objectifying but why have a character like that in the game at all? I found her creepy and rather annoying in Elpis. Her plot arc is essentially "becoming an emo because the universe isn't what you want it to be". Its really shallow if I'm honest... plus she isn't wearing any trousers.

I didn't get this at all. I knew she'd be an important character, but I didn't see her as the "last boss" until The Incident. If anything, she's a self-learning AI naively sent into the Internet. Which then discovers the chans.

[Lauront]

Her voice is really creepy, her personality is the same "pathetic girl" trope you see in a lot of animes/games (Colette from Tales of Symphonia springs to mind). As soon as I saw her, I thought... Yeah, this girl is going to be a villain. They may not being objectifying but why have a character like that in the game at all? I found her creepy and rather annoying in Elpis. Her plot arc is essentially "becoming an emo because the universe isn't what you want it to be". Its really shallow if I'm honest... plus she isn't wearing any trousers.

I had a rather similar impression of her. Can't say I enjoyed the trial with her much, either.

[Phaty]

They did this in Final Fantasy X as well, the game revelled in objectifying Rikku. Its not xenophobic to point out a pattern here.

I guess i fail to find how a kid with wings on their head and bird legs is objectifying

[CrownySuccubus]

This is so embarrassing and so American at the same time. Americans always think the whole world revolves around them and their social issues they constantly push on everyone else.

Exactly who is the one pushing social issues into this thread right now, though?

[AziraSyuren]

Exactly who is the one pushing social issues into this thread right now, though?

The same people who claim to have a problem with idpol when someone's identity is one of the main things that gets them concerned about someone's work, of course!

6.1 impressions:

Golbez is cool. Glad they're doing something with Zenos' Avatar. Not happy with the Scions continuing to be focus characters, except maybe Estinien because we haven't really gotten enough of him yet. Otherwise, I do not care.

[KageTokage]

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You may want to look a bit deeper then the first post because the discussion has evolved a lot since then...as most topics that are 400+ pages long tend to. What started off as a topic people were initially dismissing as bait from the relative shallowness of the initial post gradually drew in others who had more valid and better explained issues with the storytelling.

Though I'll still go into specifics with the last bit because one of the core problems people have with Venat throughout this very long (And admittedly at times repetitive) discussion is that there's no indication she told the Convocation anything about the Final Days whatsoever. To them, she was just a deviant who opposed the revival of those sacrificed to Zodiark for reasons they dismissed as simple fear when history could've played out very differently if they had known the truth before calamity struck.

It was also made pretty clear that Etheriys was never a "perfect" world begin with, nor was there any indication the Ancients were trying to completely eliminate strife in the manner the people of Plenty seem to have succeeded at doing (Though judging from the barren broken husk of their star below it came at a terrible cost). Creation magic in itself was a catalyst for that, with unruly creations routinely needing to be either put down or contained in Pandemonium. Even Elidibus admits that their people often stood divided on matters, but it seldom lasted for long until the matter of Zodiark's sacrifices came into play.