The devs and upper mgmt turned out to be closet pervs. Drinking employee breast milk, cube crawling, pushing employees to suicide etc. Blizzard and WoW are truly wholesome products. I wouldn't support them if they were the last development studio on the planet.
I mean EW in my opinion just never really resonated with me especially on replay. New characters barely had time to grow before becoming plot devices and you can kinda feel the whole "We had planned two expansions but elected to make this all one so enjoy these clearly would be trial bosses as dungeon bosses instead, also Garlemald resolution will not be seen until X.XX." I wouldn't say that view is terribly "wrong" just different then what most seem to have taken from it. That is how literature works after all, we all take different things from the same story. I did find the overall story really lacking the world/character building polish I am used to from FF14 and almost all of the game post-Elpis just didn't land for me as again characters became plot devices far too rapidly to become invested in any of them as characters. I would still say it is my least favorite expansion even after all this time just due to odd narrative choices and pacing issues during the story. I do wonder how time will reflect on the expansion myself but we have to wait to see on that one.
As for the patch content I want to see where it is all going as it seems thus far rather dull to me and I am hoping for some kind of big event in 6.3 to shake up the plot.
I also imagine it shouldn't be a shock those that took bigger issue with the game's story and possibly other aspects of the game did as Yoshi P. says they can and took a break for an extended period of time.

Never made a claim about who was being wrong, I don't have a horse in this race because I see it as a purely subjective thing, that was sorta the joke.I mean EW in my opinion just never really resonated with me especially on replay. New characters barely had time to grow before becoming plot devices and you can kinda feel the whole "We had planned two expansions but elected to make this all one so enjoy these clearly would be trial bosses as dungeon bosses instead, also Garlemald resolution will not be seen until X.XX." I wouldn't say that view is terribly "wrong" just different then what most seem to have taken from it. That is how literature works after all, we all take different things from the same story. I did find the overall story really lacking the world/character building polish I am used to from FF14 and almost all of the game post-Elpis just didn't land for me as again characters became plot devices far too rapidly to become invested in any of them as characters. I would still say it is my least favorite expansion even after all this time just due to odd narrative choices and pacing issues during the story. I do wonder how time will reflect on the expansion myself but we have to wait to see on that one.
As for the patch content I want to see where it is all going as it seems thus far rather dull to me and I am hoping for some kind of big event in 6.3 to shake up the plot.
I also imagine it shouldn't be a shock those that took bigger issue with the game's story and possibly other aspects of the game did as Yoshi P. says they can and took a break for an extended period of time.
Enjoyed or not, a story is gonna hit people different, but folks online get so darn defensive over dumb stuff that objectively can't have a right or wrong answer and expend endless energy explaining how their subjective opinion is the only correct one (not saying this is you tbc)
I was poking fun at how ridiculously long thus thread had gotten because of that.
Last edited by shadowclasper; 12-31-2022 at 06:37 PM.
Just play Chained Echoes. It's like the Endwalker expansion we deserved but didn't get.


My problems with the story are almost all revolving around the scions. Who should be put to rest by now but cause of how popular they are ofc we won't ever get rid of catmommy or dadcred or the twins. And how they die each expansion again and again, especially Y'shtola just to magically survive.
My dream is that they actually dump the scions, make them disband and follow their own goals. Yes maybe catch up with them in some sidequests here and there. But please make a fresh start and let us meet really new characters. Some that maybe don't trust us blindly. Some which motives we don't already know. Some that we can explore again and don't know in and out by now.
Cause by hydaelyn if Y'shtola delivers again a exposition speech next patch i will start calling her Morgan Freeman.




This is what I was hoping to see for the post expansion story here in EW, but alas not. It's just more of the same.My dream is that they actually dump the scions, make them disband and follow their own goals. Yes maybe catch up with them in some sidequests here and there. But please make a fresh start and let us meet really new characters. Some that maybe don't trust us blindly. Some which motives we don't already know. Some that we can explore again and don't know in and out by now.
Cause by hydaelyn if Y'shtola delivers again a exposition speech next patch i will start calling her Morgan Freeman.
Last edited by Rolder50; 12-31-2022 at 02:46 PM.


Yeah next patch we get to see the twins again and i fear the next expansion we will just all venture into the void together with our discount Zenos and all our "friends". So much for new beginnings and newfound adventures.
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