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    Xeronia Alden
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    I really question the overuse of Harchefant in particular as with the ARR cut you barely spend any time with him, a lot of the cut Coerthas quests involved him and I just don't think that connection is really made well anymore. Also I know I am the only person who cared about SB's side characters but what about Meffrid and Conrad? I get Meffrid basically dies instantly and I am in the handful of people who remembered the Commander of the resistance before Lyse but the overuse of just Monebyrda, Harchefant, Ysayle when we have other dead people we knew is pretty annoying.
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    i can't say i really enjoyed the meteion asspull. makes me wonder how many rewrites (and what was rewritten) they had during that content drought last year
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    Midi Ajihri
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    i can't say i really enjoyed the meteion asspull. makes me wonder how many rewrites (and what was rewritten) they had during that content drought last year
    Per an interview, the idea of Meteion was already there since the very earliest stages of writing the expansion before any rewrites while Ultima Thule and the final act went all the way back to 2019. Hydaelyn and Zodiark were also in there as trials from the very beginning. They debated on having one take over the other to fight us but decided on a "surprise last boss" at the end instead, also before the rewrites.

    So we can't really blame Meteion on anything else other than being something unnecessary that they decided to stick with. Hydaelyn and Zodiark's trials at the point in the story they're at is due to SE's refusal to change from the same X.0 story formula they've had since HW where we do trials at specific levels.
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    Cierzo Mistral
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    i can't say i really enjoyed the meteion asspull. makes me wonder how many rewrites (and what was rewritten) they had during that content drought last year
    Only tangentially related to her, but it was kind of funny how in this stream commentary ... dynamis wasn't even a thing until after 5.0.

    Sure, my interest in the story and lore and investment in it is destroyed with nothing left for me, but at least I was vindicated about the Omega raids being about how it lacked a soul and could not comprehend our actions due to it, and only began to at the very end.

    Not that it matters much, aether is king again and dynamis is back in the plot device toybox after serving its singular purpose (for now?).
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    Last edited by Skyborne; 10-12-2022 at 11:34 AM.

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    Marel Nobelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyborne View Post
    Only tangentially related to her, but it was kind of funny how in this stream commentary ... dynamis wasn't even a thing until after 5.0.
    This is honestly why I hate Dynamis as a concept so much. (other than it being so poorly defined) It comes out of the writers' butts at the 11th hour without any build-up and it's obvious that it was only a thing because the writers wrote themselves into a corner. How do you make the society of an ultra powerful and intelligent race of beings, who have a mastery over the lore's main energy source, collapse? The writers seemed to think that the random bullcrap emotion energy that conveniently can counter said race was a good idea. It just reeks of bad planning and last minute excuses made to get out of the corner they backed themselves into. I'm honestly hoping that they drop Dynamis from the story and just ignore from now on, it's so poorly written and defined as a concept, and I'm not interested in expanding on such an awful plot device.
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    Alijana Tumet
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    I kind of wish they'd break out of the formulaic structure they have for when dungeons and trials happen because it adds a certain level of predictability when you know you're going to be fighting a primal or some other big nasty at a specific time.

    The 50/50 zone splits are another thing I wish they could do away with because likewise being able to see the levels of the FATEs in each zone telegraphs when you're going to be coming back.

    It's very difficult for me to not be aware of those little quirks like interface spoilers and immediately start making predictions about how the story is going to flow as a consequence. Heck, I even predicted the final zone was going to be in deep space somewhere just from looking at the list of EW Rowena collectables without any further context.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 10-15-2022 at 05:25 PM.

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    Vivian Rysto
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    Q: What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?
    A: Hope in the face of complete despair
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    Q: What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?
    A: Hope in the face of complete despair
    I thought it was your only allowed hope if your the right kinds of people
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    Q: What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?
    A: Hope in the face of complete despair
    Wrong, the answer is that ShB did despair better. EW's story rang hollow in that regard. Sorry nerds. :/
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    Elmind Exilus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    Wrong, the answer is that ShB did despair better. EW's story rang hollow in that regard. Sorry nerds. :/
    Again, to you, perhaps. I'd encourage you to check out YT videos on the EW story. You'll find hundreds of comments from unique accounts (as opposed to the couple dozen or so people here having ongoing discussions) talking about how meaningful they found EW (again, to them).
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