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    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    When a mobile gacha game does more justice for the Sundering than the game itself.
    Guess the writing team didn't want to bring about the AU in your sig, after all. Hence shoving this info in some obscure place, where it wouldn't spell out quite so clearly in XIV what 'mommy' did.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 05-10-2022 at 08:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Guess the writing team didn't want to bring about the AU in your sig, after all. Hence shoving this info in some obscure place, where it wouldn't spell out quite so clearly in XIV what 'mommy' did.
    The fact that even in the Reincarnation story, they subtly try and hint that 'Hydaelyn good Zodiark bad' leaves such a horrible taste in my mouth. Can't even escape it in another universe's retelling.

    Especially egregious when this story is supposed to be from Emet-Selch's point of view! Like what the heck!
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    Last edited by Kaoru_Nagisa; 05-10-2022 at 11:15 PM.
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    The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game.
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    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
    Quote Originally Posted by Karowolus View Post
    If WoW has a toxic negativity problem, XIV has a toxic Positivity problem

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    Needless to say the recent happenings on NieR are ... interesting. For the most part it's stuff we already knew, and the state of mankind could be sort of deduced from the Encyclopedia description of the First Era, but it's nice to finally have confirmation that the Sundering was horrifying. Thanks, Mom! Keep glossing over it! Turned out ShB Emet-Selch was, of course, right. He's not the Angel of Truth for nothing after all. Most people playing the game however will continue believing her version of things as presented in EW; after all, hers had the better special effects and the very significant song in the background. She is also Certifiably Good, and right in the end, because Dynamis.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    The fact that even in the Reincarnation story, they subtly try and hint that 'Hydaelyn good Zodiark bad' leaves such a horrible taste in my mouth. Can't even escape it in another universe's retelling.

    Especially egregious when this story is supposed to be from Emet-Selch's point of view! Like what the heck!
    BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! Ancients were notoriously known for this propensity, after all.


    Re: the moon, maybe it's just me being overall pessimistic on the state of things but I sincerely believe it's just someone at SE being sloppy with the skybox and somehow not fixing it in 6.1. For those unaware, you can see the moon from 8 pm to 12 am during Umbral Winds weather looking east and it gradually goes up in the sky until midnight – it's particularly tricky to see during a new moon but it's there:




    Quote Originally Posted by PawPaw View Post
    Yeah. Noticed that one day while I was hanging out there and wondered for a moment how that was possible before I remembered that this was Endwalker where nothing really matters or makes logical sense anyway. Best not to look too deeply.
    ^
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    Last edited by Teraq; 05-10-2022 at 11:40 PM. Reason: oops sorry I forgot to dunk on Venat; fixed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    The fact that even in the Reincarnation story, they subtly try and hint that 'Hydaelyn good Zodiark bad' leaves such a horrible taste in my mouth. Can't even escape it in another universe's retelling.

    Especially egregious when this story is supposed to be from Emet-Selch's point of view! Like what the heck!
    It's particularly odd given that the game has repeatedly established that Light and Dark do not equal 'good' and 'evil'.

    The game in general would do well to stop portraying most attempts to preserve or restore something as a bad thing. Especially in cases when some nutter comes along, kills a bunch of people only for the survivors to be told to stop...trying to prevent their own extinction and elimination of all memory of their loved ones?
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    I forget if they ever said she made the moon in particular or if they just said she put zodiark in the moon?

    As i could see them try and use wiggle room even if they ignore the previous implications
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucida3b View Post
    I forget if they ever said she made the moon in particular or if they just said she put zodiark in the moon?

    As i could see them try and use wiggle room even if they ignore the previous implications
    iirc she said she made the moon to hold him.
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    Honestly the biggest issue is that I cant tell whats incompetence vs deliberate misleading at this point. Thats not a good thing
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    Welcome to the club.
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    Yes, she confirms it in the Word of the Mother scene. It's even clearer in the French version. Now whether it is another tall tale from her or not? Who can say...
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    Ahhh... that NieR crossover. A return to more ShB-style storytelling with actual pathos, even if it's nothing truly new, aside from confirming some things about the Sundering. Aside from a couple of nitpicks, anyway. What's next though, actual vital lore being locked behind some kind of limited edition JP-only breakfast cereal run?

    It almost makes one forget the dreck in EW with time loops and memory wipes...
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