What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[CrownySuccubus]

Back on topic, I enjoyed EW but I wished the Garlemald section had alot more badassery fight scenes to it instead of it being a peace core mission, I mean it's Garlemald, not the salvation army.

But that guy blowing his brains out was pretty bad ass, he was a cool Legatus or whatever his title was, I would have liked to seen more of him, but overall I'm happy we got to finally go to Garlemald.

As I've mentioned before, I don't believe in things like higher powers.

Besides that, even if God did exist, I think he'd be about as skeptical about how much the Bible misrepresents him as I am.

[Skyborne]

We'd better be able to do something for poor Themis or I may actually evolve into a ravenous three-headed monster whose only purpose is chaos and destruction.

100% this, also, I'm way ahead of you. Careful not to stand in the cone of my Phyrric Breath. And don't call me ugly, Venat!

Back on topic, I enjoyed EW but I wished the Garlemald section had alot more badassery fight scenes to it instead of it being a peace core mission, I mean it's Garlemald, not the salvation army.

But that guy blowing his brains out was pretty bad ass, he was a cool Legatus or whatever his title was, I would have liked to seen more of him, but overall I'm happy we got to finally go to Garlemald.

Quintus, yes. What a beautiful dream we all shared...

Also still baffling was Alphinaud's behavior in that Garlemald section, and what I saw was a backslide of his character development back into the super-naive 'peace and wuv!!!!! all together now!!!!' Alphinaud with only slightly less arrogance. Did he really think he and all of Eorzea could just waltz right in and have every half-starved Garlean in the frozen wastes just throw themselves at them for help and salvation? A big welcome party? Wasn't he around the area of Garlemald all throughout Shadowbringers and had some interaction? Wouldn't he have known their frosty, savage-untrusting outlook at least from Sharlayan textbooks?

[Caurcas]

As I've mentioned before, I don't believe in things like higher powers.

Besides that, even if God did exist, I think he'd be about as skeptical about how much the Bible misrepresents him as I am.

Please stay on topic, we don't need this to become reddit.

[CrownySuccubus]

Also still baffling was Alphinaud's behavior in that Garlemald section, and what I saw was a backslide of his character development back into the super-naive 'peace and wuv!!!!! all together now!!!!' Alphinaud with only slightly less arrogance. Did he really think he and all of Eorzea could just waltz right in and have every half-starved Garlean in the frozen wastes just throw themselves at them for help and salvation? A big welcome party? Wasn't he around the area of Garlemald all throughout Shadowbringers and had some interaction? Wouldn't he have known their frosty, savage-untrusting outlook at least from Sharlayan textbooks?

Overall, the Garlemald subplot was handled about as realistically as could be expected, considering. Nobody went into Garlemald expecting to be welcomed and hailed as saviors, and it's stated that the contingent was only the 10% of Alliance members who agreed to help Garlemald at all after what they'd done in the past.

I personally thought it was the most well-done plot thread in the expansion. One of the things I really liked about Final Fantasy VI was the fact that the first time you actually get to Vector (the Empire's capital), it's after the Espers have destroyed most of it. And then, after the apocalypse, the Empire is basically a distant memory. I liked the thought of how petty things like war seems in the face of true despair. And, since the Garlean Empire is almost a copy-past of the Gestahl Empire, I liked that call-back.

I can agree that the twins were annoyingly angsty about every little failure, though. Although I feel that the situation was handled realistically, their reactions were not. I really hate how the story loves to milk the emotional pathos out of every single minor tragedy / triumph, but at this point that's par for the course. Everybody has to explain all the feels they feel before we can move on to the next plot point.

[PawPaw]

Last few pages have been a good read, I had a lot to catch up on.

We'd better be able to do something for poor Themis or I may actually evolve into a ravenous three-headed monster whose only purpose is chaos and destruction.

I wish I could say that I have hope that there is a chance, but if EW has taught me anything it's that all Ancients deserve sad endings. Unless they confirm a split timeline/AU where things worked out differently, this whole thing with Themis/Eric/Laha will just end up being an attempt to humanize them more; which will then make you feel more terrible that you had a hand in their downfall. Rinse and repeat.

I'm kinda looking forward to reading the posts of a ravenous, three-headed, chaos monster though

[Lauront]

Last few pages have been a good read, I had a lot to catch up on.



I wish I could say that I have hope that there is a chance, but if EW has taught me anything it's that all Ancients deserve sad endings. Unless they confirm a split timeline/AU where things worked out differently, this whole thing with Themis/Eric/Laha will just end up being an attempt to humanize them more; which will then make you feel more terrible that you had a hand in their downfall. Rinse and repeat.

I'm kinda looking forward to reading the posts of a ravenous, three-headed, chaos monster though

At this point, I'll take humanizing them. If it ends up just being another shoddy attempt to vilify Laha, or that they were "doomed" in some other way, though... meh.

[PawPaw]

What will thoughts be if it turns out that Themis and Venat are related, as I have seen much speculation about?

People are basing it purely on their hair/eye coloring but by that reasoning we could also assume that Hesperos is related to Hades, so it probably amounts to nothing. But still...

[Lauront]

What will thoughts be if it turns out that Themis and Venat are related, as I have seen much speculation about?

People are basing it purely on their hair/eye coloring but by that reasoning we could also assume that Hesperos is related to Hades, so it probably amounts to nothing. But still...

It'd just be extremely weird, because he's even discussed during the scene with her follower asking why it has to be her... plus he says nothing of it at all when he passes.

[PawPaw]

It'd just be extremely weird, because he's even discussed during the scene with her follower asking why it has to be her... plus he says nothing of it at all when he passes.

I agree completely, especially as it would mean that she knowingly and willingly allowed her son/brother/nephew whatever to become a sacrificial lamb instead of, you know, warning anyone. I think it's a wild theory but it is out there. I hope nothing comes of it.

[Caurcas]

What will thoughts be if it turns out that Themis and Venat are related, as I have seen much speculation about?

People are basing it purely on their hair/eye coloring but by that reasoning we could also assume that Hesperos is related to Hades, so it probably amounts to nothing. But still...

A Greek tragedy by boring fantasy Greeks.