Yoshi-P Statement on Player Feedback

[Shironeko_Narunyan]

Great even more ammo for people to use to shut down any criticism for the game.The future is looking bright as ever…

Criticism is fine. It's not about what you say, but how you say it. I see so much hyperbole here on these forums, "such-and-such is dead", "the devs don't play their own game", "which moron designed this" etc, that definitely doesn't count as "criticism", it's just pure venting.

Then there's the bald man with the glorious beard on Youtube, who's taking it to a whole other level.

I think in this case, YP means a certain subset of JP players, but we have quite a lot of those here in the English speaking community, too.

[Avatre]

Great even more ammo for people to use to shut down any criticism for the game.The future is looking bright as ever…

Or, and hear me out on this radical idea, people can actually be civil and not degrade into an unruly mob of shouting obscenities at others, and shooting down constructive criticism. The vast majority of "criticism" I've seen on these forums is people just insulting the devs for their decisions, or attacking people for having a differing view to their own - usually when the OP dislikes something, and someone likes it, I've seen both ways where the OP just instantly calls the responder an idiot(vast paraphrasing here), or the other way around where the OP is called the idiot(again, vast paraphrasing) for their views.

If people actually took their time to actually stop and think before typing, a lot of the criticism would actually promote discussion, and not just be person A telling person B to shut up, and then person B telling person A to shut up, and it going in a circle with absolutely nothing actually discussed about.

[Annihilism]

It's always felt like the devs listen more to the JP feedback more so than us, been like that since 11. But lets be honest with ourselves, who can blame them? The west is dealing with a different societal climate than japan right now. Its much safer to upset the NA/EU hardcore raider and number cruncher crowd than the vastly larger casual player base.

NA/EU DRK: "Helllo Mr. Yoshi I just have a few questions about job balance and I-"
Yoshi: "Hey there lil' guy, did you like the unisex outfits we added?"
NA/EU DRK:"Uh yes of course Mr. Yoshi it's just that DRK really needs-"
Yoshi: "That's nice, enjoy the MSQ!"

It's no surprise that the JP community would seem more toxic because all the useless nonsense is filtered out and they get straight to the point, unlike what the west sees publicly, JP have very little patience with each other. Also in no way am I advocating for aggressive and mean spirited in regards to submitting feedback, but funnily enough the vast majority of feedback and write ups from NA/EU are constructive and respectful, but can you guess what criticism gets ignored? I still believe this community deserved the award, I really do, but the devs need to stop treating the NA/EU like kids and start taking us seriously.

[kpxmanifesto]

For a while, people on this forum had me thinking it was the English-speaking forum that voiced their disapproval with this game the most. Apparently the Japanese player-base is just as dissatisfied, if not more.

[Theodric]

For a while, people on this forum had me thinking it was the English-speaking forum that voiced their disapproval with this game the most. Apparently the Japanese player-base is just as dissatisfied, if not more.

I can only speculate, but I rather suspect it's because a lot of concessions are made in regards to the game at the cost of Japanese tastes and trends.

[Driavna]

I can only speculate, but I rather suspect it's because a lot of concessions are made in regards to the game at the cost of Japanese tastes and trends.

You are probably right about that one, plus FFXIV has only seen big improvements regarding MSQ (this is independent to liking or disliking it) and "one time content" while the MMO side of it is in a weird spot.

[kpxmanifesto]

I can only speculate, but I rather suspect it's because a lot of concessions are made in regards to the game at the cost of Japanese tastes and trends.

The reddit post that addresses YP's stream has comments saying that most of the criticism appears to be aimed at issues with class balance. Some people in that thread also mention issues with story, music, and servers.

[Unaki]

For a while, people on this forum had me thinking it was the English-speaking forum that voiced their disapproval with this game the most. Apparently the Japanese player-base is just as dissatisfied, if not more.

There is an entire segment of the FF11 fanbase that very vocally goes out of their way to make sure people know they hate 14 for "ruining" 11 and want it to fail.

[Avatre]

There is an entire segment of the FF11 fanbase that very vocally goes out of their way to make sure people know they hate 14 for "ruining" 11 and want it to fail.

Decade late for that to happen, isn't it? While there can be improvements, I don't think 14 will outright fail in the near future.

[LisSquid]

For a while, people on this forum had me thinking it was the English-speaking forum that voiced their disapproval with this game the most. Apparently the Japanese player-base is just as dissatisfied, if not more.

I am actually embarrassingly curious about what is going on in JP for there to be an official statement like this.

Didn't think they were speaking about the English playerbase at first due to the fact we have such a lack of access to the devs. I would assume all feedback, even the most hostile, would not be translated word for word to the devs.