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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorky View Post
    Do you think it's your right to be nasty to people you never met? Because your comment shows you have no idea how to give constructive feed back. The very minute you start insulting you have lost. That's reality, people will shut down anything you have to say after you insult them. So all you are doing at that point is being obnoxious.
    That's not what I said. What I said was, don't tell me you want polite feedback, then proceed to ignore polite feedback for the better part of a decade, then bemoan the fact that some of the feedback isn't polite.

    11111111111111 is bad game design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    That's not what I said. What I said was, don't tell me you want polite feedback, then proceed to ignore polite feedback for the better part of a decade, then bemoan the fact that some of the feedback isn't polite.

    11111111111111 is bad game design.
    Did you ever think the feedback given is not appropriate or doable. Just because a person gives feedback doesn't mean the devs have to act on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorky View Post
    Did you ever think the feedback given is not appropriate or doable. Just because a person gives feedback doesn't mean the devs have to act on it.
    If making kits beyond pressing 1 is not appropriate or doable, then there is something deeply wrong with the class design and the philosophy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    That's not what I said. What I said was, don't tell me you want polite feedback, then proceed to ignore polite feedback for the better part of a decade, then bemoan the fact that some of the feedback isn't polite.

    11111111111111 is bad game design.
    Yeah?
    If someone tell you in your face right now that your performance suck in rudely manner.
    What is your first reaction?
    Are you still going to say this is a "feedback"?
    Please stop hi-jack the concept of feedback and replace with outburst of negative emotion.
    That is now how you making feedback.
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    Last edited by Divinemights; 01-12-2022 at 03:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    Healers offered hundreds of pages of polite feedback for years. The gameplay is now 11111111111111111. If you want polite feedback, don't respond to persistent polite feedback with "nope, you're getting 11111111111111 and you're gonna like it or get out". You wouldn't accept that BS on YOUR main job, so miss me with that plea for genteel criticism. You guys don't play any classes other than DPS and it -shows-.
    You aren't in the wrong for bemoaning healer design. But you lash out at players who think differently, and aren't above calling developers incompetent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    You aren't in the wrong for bemoaning healer design. But you lash out at players who think differently, and aren't above calling developers incompetent.
    I don't think they are incompetent but I do believe they have gotten lazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    I don't think they are incompetent but I do believe they have gotten lazy.
    And this right here is what's being talked about. Not pointing out problems with the game itself, but insulting the devs behind it. And with such a ridiculous claim as 'lazy', completely discounting a variety of perfectly logical reasons why there is less content in your view.

    -EW has waaay more cutscenes and story compared to previous expansion. You think they can just snap their finger and those magically appear on their pcs? No it takes manhours to create
    -they had to shift to a work from home situation. This has all sorts of time loss for a group environment like the devs are in, like in setup, coordinating how they're going to communicate, etc not counting the fact that living in a small space with other people will almost certainly lead to some lost manhours due to real life
    -related to the above, work from home doesnt have the same high end pc's to do the work on, therefore taking more manhours to complete the same task

    And that's only things I can come up with off the top of my head. But no, it couldn't possibly be for any reason other than they're a bunch of super lazy slackers. Those same devs that spent how many hours of their own time adjusting some headwear for vierra because they didn't want to disappoint the players? Yup, clearly a case of just simple laziness, cold hard fact! /s (should be incredibly obvious, but just in case)
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    I do have to sympathize with game devs on this one, thankfully I work in a field where I don't have to interact with the final users, just with the client, but still...
    Things are usually the way they are because:
    1.) It cannot be made better/faster/cheaper without more money
    2.) People like it that way
    3.) Board wants it that way
    4.) Nobody actually knows what is better, and status quo is safer than taking blind shots at the dark
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    this whole conversation is getting bloated. Bottom line, keep giving all the feedback. Just dont be a total dilbert about it.
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    As I play through EW (lv88 currently), I can't help but feel the Loporitt race represents the dev team of FFXIV.

    That was likely already pointed out, but had to get it off of my own chest. I'll also add that I absolutely adore the Loporitts.
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