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    CrimsonGunner's Avatar
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    Mike Arklight
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    sorry but when they ignore complains over the years, don't give answers to portions of the community that gave feedback and did not address core issues over a whole expansion or way late in the expansions(some were quite small fixes on their part that could have been patched right after), they should not expect hugs, kisses and worship but rage and maybe scorn from their negligence.
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    I have seen plenty of forum posts calling out the devs in very insulting ways. Take a look at the person who was upset about reaskins of gear sets in that thread plenty of people called the devs lazy. The poster above me maybe doesn't understand the difference between constructive feedback and insults. Some people are going to all kinds of lengths to justify why they think it's their right to insult other people's work ethics. Seems a bit like not wanting to accept responsibility for their language or lack of self control to me.

    I'm a pretty blunt person but I canstring together sentences without insulting or swearing in them. The tone of my posts come off as pretty straight forward and some people take it as rude but mostly I am speaking my mind.
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    Last edited by Snorky; 01-11-2022 at 08:31 AM.

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    The. Customer. Is. Right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    The. Customer. Is. Right.
    Being a customer doesn't give you the right to treat people poorly. Not sorry about it.
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    Alexalea Snowsong
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    As seen in this thread, the biggest issue here is that some people don't seem to realize that FF14 is not their game. Feedback should always be given in as constructive a manner as possible. But regardless of whether you give the feedback in an angry, threatening, demeaning, immature way or if you give it in the most eloquent 20+ minute long professional presentation, it's still just feedback on someone else's product. While I'm sure they, as anyone, would prefer the latter, they're under no real obligation to follow through on your requests or respond to your criticism. Maybe they aren't doing what you suggest because of technical reasons. Maybe they aren't doing what you suggest because of resource reasons. Maybe they aren't doing what you suggest because they just don't feel like it goes along with their design philosophy. Maybe they're just not doing it because they don't think it will make them money. At the end of the day, it's their decision to make. And your decision, as an intelligent, mature consumer, is to just stop supporting their product if you don't feel like you're being treated well or if you don't feel like their vision aligns with yours.

    And if you ever do feel that the people who make a video game are ever worthy of rage or threats then, frankly, it's not the developers of the video game that need help.
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    Having spent the better part of my adult life working with the public, this sentiment really hits home. There's a significant portion of human society that operates under the delusion that their personal viewport on the world is the only one that matters. You also have a fair amount of latent hostility with people not knowing how to deal with whatever their frustration may be, combined with the inherent disassociation of only communicating with others via bite-sized blobs of text on anti-social media and forums. How often do most people actually talk to others anymore? I mean really talk, with actual voice, having a real conversation. The general detachment of how you affect the world around you is a serious problem.

    Just because they might only appear as pixels on a screen, that doesn't mean there isn't a very real person with very real hopes/dreams/emotions on the other end. As a whole we really need to make more of an effort to be decent human beings.
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Same people who complain about how they can't criticize people in dungeons and then are revealed to be absolutely abusive when doing so are probably the same people in this thread saying "ARE YOU SAYING I CAN'T COMPLAIN!?!?!"
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Leone Noir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Same people who complain about how they can't criticize people in dungeons and then are revealed to be absolutely abusive when doing so are probably the same people in this thread saying "ARE YOU SAYING I CAN'T COMPLAIN!?!?!"
    No kidding. I can name at least one person in this very thread who tried dragging me through the mud for a good part of a year just out of pettiness. It's no surprise these people have a knee jerk reaction when asked to be polite when giving feedback. It must be a shame they can't be openly abusive on here, only subtly.
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    I know what Yoship means and i agree in some degree with him, but when DRK has been ripped off of his own mechanics, his identity and become a amalgam of fluff skills with no mechanics and other copy pasted from other job and despite of all the feedback being deliver from the comunity their answer is we don't know and the job remain basically the same now with extra useless traits and more fluff and design problems they basically deserve some of the backstab.

    I understand his team work pretty hard but in terms of DRK and judging what they give us looks like they don't care about the job at all and im pretty sure some healers feel the same about specifics jobs or the whole role in general too, being so stubborn and literally do the minimun if we can call it that is not helping with the current situation and they are going to make it worse.

    Im sorry for them if they are feeling bad about it but there is a limited amount of stuff a customer can hold when some problems just persist for entire expansions against the players despite all the feedback just fo feel ignored and then frustrated by those who seem to don't care about it at all.
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    Last edited by shao32; 01-11-2022 at 09:58 AM.

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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    they basically deserve some of the backstab.
    Nobody who is doing their job "Deserves" abuse. At the most if someone is doing their job badly they "deserve" to be corrected and possibly punished. But not abused.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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