Undercutting

[Avidria]

I do laugh when I see people undercut to the point where they're actively losing money
Like slashing prices on stuff that was already selling super fast, or posting stuff for less than what a vendor will buy it for
Bit of an odd choice tbh

[Gortys]

I do laugh when I see people undercut to the point where they're actively losing money
Like slashing prices on stuff that was already selling super fast, or posting stuff for less than what a vendor will buy it for
Bit of an odd choice tbh

I laugh, but then I buy some of it and just vendor it. I've made plenty of gil this way, but I also suspect some are purposely posting items at vendor price to encourage others to undercut. I can't see any other reason why the price drops so dramatically for these items and always by the same retainer.

[Xrystofer]

Just undercut materials by 1 Gil and you will be fine in most cases. People complain about aggressive undercutters that tank the prices.

e.g X Material is 500 Gil and you undercut by 100 Gil. Then another person undercuts you by 1 Gil and adds to the problem.

[SavishSalacious]

I will always drive the price way down, using rtainers to take something thats selling at 100k down to 1 gill and seeing all three of my retainers selling so people are

[IdowhatIwant]

Yeah, if people continue to undercut me by a couple gil every couple minutes. I will just ruin the market for that item and make profit off something else. I don't have time to watch the market board for hours.

[LystAP]

I undercut drastically sometimes simply because I felt like it. Some days I'm grumpy. Some days I'm feeling whimsical. Some days I just like round numbers. There's no rules against it, and I feel like I am just making items more accessible to more players. Somehow I'm still making money, so I have no reason to become more 'efficient'.

One time an angry competitor messaged me repeatedly and accused me of being a bot. They sent their FC mates to stalk me as well - 'trying to catch me in the act'. I reported them for harrassment and haven't heard from them since. People take the MB way too seriously. Last I checked, the Marketboard isn't the focus of the game.

[Risvertasashi]

I undercut drastically sometimes simply because I felt like it. Some days I'm grumpy. Some days I'm feeling whimsical. Some days I just like round numbers. There's no rules against it, and I feel like I am just making items more accessible to more players. Somehow I'm still making money, so I have no reason to become more 'efficient'.

One time an angry competitor messaged me repeatedly and accused me of being a bot. They sent their FC mates to stalk me as well - 'trying to catch me in the act'. I reported them for harrassment and haven't heard from them since. People take the MB way too seriously. Last I checked, the Marketboard isn't the focus of the game.

PVP in general tends to make people very emotional, sadly. It's why the devs had to take away chat from The Feast.

[wereotter]

Typically I don't undercut. I'll look at what the lowest price is, and list my item for exactly the same amount (or maybe I'll undercut a little to round out the price per item to a multiple of 5 just so the cost is cleaner)

If people are willing to buy at the listed price, there's no reason to undercut, or especially undercut dramatically. Just have a little patience, and yours will sell too... unless of course people crash the market, then even undercutting by only a little still won't have saved you.

[Feidam]

I recently read a thread where someone was denouncing people who undercut on the Market Board, which is something that took me by surprise. I figured that it was something that was normal in every MMO auction house-esque system, or at the very least that's the experience I got since it was prevalent in every MMO I've played up to this point... and in real-life...

But since I'm still relatively new and only just now getting the opportunity to participate in an early expansion economy, I just want to ask, because I've been absolutely vomiting materials onto the Market Board at undercut prices and smiling with greedy glee when they all sell before the person whom I have undercut.

Is this behaviour 'normal' or 'acceptable' in FFXIV?

Depends. Undercutting by a few Gil is normal. Folks that drop the price by half are probably being bought out by folks like me that will turn around wait a few days then get 2x to 3x the price you listed for selling at the normal going rate.

[AmiableApkallu]

I'm a casual crafter/gatherer, so what I sell on the MB tends to be the small amounts of leftovers I have from gathering and crafting a few items for whatever reason. I'll typically price these leftovers at a "round" number near the current lowest listing, the idea being that I don't want to contribute towards an undercut-by-1-gil chain. I'll also update prices only once or twice a day. I figure, either:

- It's a seller's market, in which case my stack will sell without me having to have the absolute lowest price at all times.

- It's a buyer's market, in which case the price will drop without my help and I might as well save myself the trouble of following the drop each step of the way.