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    Who Cares if its Normal or Acceptable?
    YOU DONT PAY MY SUB

    But for real, if you want to make a Quick sale, lower your Prices.
    If you think you should make X amount, sell it for that price. But dont get made when people sell it cheaper and make more money.
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    There's always a great deal of irony with undercutters complaining about other undercutters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    I recently read a thread where someone was denouncing people who undercut on the Market Board, which is something that took me by surprise. I figured that it was something that was normal in every MMO auction house-esque system, or at the very least that's the experience I got since it was prevalent in every MMO I've played up to this point... and in real-life...

    But since I'm still relatively new and only just now getting the opportunity to participate in an early expansion economy, I just want to ask, because I've been absolutely vomiting materials onto the Market Board at undercut prices and smiling with greedy glee when they all sell before the person whom I have undercut.

    Is this behaviour 'normal' or 'acceptable' in FFXIV?
    I've always just matched the lowest price. If everytime I come back from a dungeon etc and its the same retainer undercutting me by 1, I'll just destroy the market. I brought the Chondrite tools from 300k down to 20k on my server by listing 10 of each at 20k. I was pretty proud that someone managed to find out who I was and messaged me angrily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian25 View Post
    I've always just matched the lowest price. If everytime I come back from a dungeon etc and its the same retainer undercutting me by 1, I'll just destroy the market. I brought the Chondrite tools from 300k down to 20k on my server by listing 10 of each at 20k. I was pretty proud that someone managed to find out who I was and messaged me angrily.
    ...which makes me really glad that most of the time other players can't see who's behind a retainer. As if this thread wasn't indication enough, people get really hostile about market stuff pretty quick.

    Also, thank you for your service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    ...which makes me really glad that most of the time other players can't see who's behind a retainer. As if this thread wasn't indication enough, people get really hostile about market stuff pretty quick.

    Also, thank you for your service.
    Yeah I have no idea how he did it, he must have seen me crafting a ton of them. But he messaged me something along the lines of "I know this may be weird but are you the jerk ruining the market?"

    Even at 20k I was still nearly doubling my profit on each item, so it worked out in the end haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian25 View Post
    Yeah I have no idea how he did it, he must have seen me crafting a ton of them. But he messaged me something along the lines of "I know this may be weird but are you the jerk ruining the market?"

    Even at 20k I was still nearly doubling my profit on each item, so it worked out in the end haha.
    Items you craft have your signature on them.

    It's not a surefire way to find out who owns a retainer as people can relist others' items if they decide they don't need them or to try to control the market. But that's almost certainly how you were found out - the item signature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Items you craft have your signature on them.

    It's not a surefire way to find out who owns a retainer as people can relist others' items if they decide they don't need them or to try to control the market. But that's almost certainly how you were found out - the item signature.
    Oh duh, I should have realised that. Thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian25 View Post
    Yeah I have no idea how he did it, he must have seen me crafting a ton of them. But he messaged me something along the lines of "I know this may be weird but are you the jerk ruining the market?"

    Even at 20k I was still nearly doubling my profit on each item, so it worked out in the end haha.
    ... Except you can see the name of the crafter on every item they craft. It's, uh, kinda obvious, so I don't know why you're confused as to how this person found out. :P

    EDIT: bah, beaten by another poster. oop.

    Well, to add to this, I've repeatedly undercut someone by 1 gil just to tick them off if they've been undercutting me repeatedly. If they then decide to tank the market, I just move on to another item. /shrug
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirhd View Post
    ... Except you can see the name of the crafter on every item they craft. It's, uh, kinda obvious, so I don't know why you're confused as to how this person found out. :P

    EDIT: bah, beaten by another poster. oop.

    Well, to add to this, I've repeatedly undercut someone by 1 gil just to tick them off if they've been undercutting me repeatedly. If they then decide to tank the market, I just move on to another item. /shrug
    Yeah, I've only relatively recently returned (late shadowbringers) after only hitting level 44 in ARR, so there are still a lot of nuances to this game that I am learning.
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