Undercutting

[Atelier-Bagur]

Thats like getting mad at competition. Who cares, I say just price it whatever the price you would think it'll sell more and be done with it. If people get mad then thats on them for being such self-entitled little crybabies.

[Ultaniku]

I can’t begrudge a slight undercut by a few gil especially if they’re selling a single item or say a smaller stack of crafting mats. What floors me is when most everyone is pricing a more desired crafting material around similar prices, one or two gil off, and then someone comes along and lowers it by say 1000 gil or more. You’ll think mine will definitely sell but then everyone lowers theirs as well. If it’s a popular material or item it’s going to sell regardless just base it with the others. It’ll sell. Fast cash isn’t always best cash.

[Liam_Harper]

What floors me is when most everyone is pricing a more desired crafting material around similar prices, one or two gil off, and then someone comes along and lowers it by say 1000 gil or more.

If it was actually desirable, a single person wouldn't be able to crash the price like that.

[Ultaniku]

If it was actually desirable, a single person wouldn't be able to crash the price like that.

It isn’t usually just a single person. It’s that avalanche especially if everyone is watching their items like a hawk and tank the prices the second someone lowers their materials a good bit. The higher crafting leathers usually sell pretty well on my server and usually around 3-4K a piece. And they sell rather quickly, so when people see they’re selling they will lower the price a good bit and then it just turns into everyone lowering the prices. They sell well on their own. The price gouge isn’t necessary.

[Liam_Harper]

It isn’t usually just a single person. It’s that avalanche especially if everyone is watching their items like a hawk and tank the prices the second someone lowers their materials a good bit. The higher crafting leathers usually sell pretty well on my server and usually around 3-4K a piece. And they sell rather quickly, so when people see they’re selling they will lower the price a good bit and then it just turns into everyone lowering the prices. They sell well on their own. The price gouge isn’t necessary.

Why do you think everyone is fine undercutting a single person who just dropped the price by a huge amount? That avalanche happens for a reason. Everyone wants to stay in that market. It doesn't matter if they "sell fast", the supply is still far greater. You might see 100 selling a day, but if 200 are being pushed onto the market not everyone can sell theirs. So players will be aggressive, take the price crash and relist frequently.

The higher crafting leathers are worthless. Timed node mats are easy to gather and used for Spiritbond, so cheap. Tome mats have crashed in price. You just churn them out on a 4 button macro and even if you barely break even you get 12 materia for every 100. A large majority of players can spam these effortlessly. When items are worthless a price crash is inevitable.

If the items were hard to make and desirable, this wouldn't happen. Let's say one person undercut by a huge amount and everyone followed. The buyers would leap at the chance to get rare and desirable items dirt cheap and clean the mb to stock up. Sir undercut would have ran out of items and they're hard to make so he can't list more right away. The price would return to normal.

I don't know how players don't get this. "But my items used to sell well!" means nothing when the item in question is cheap junk tens of thousands of other people could make 100 of within an hour.

[Stormfur]

Meh.. I don't care. I craft to relax. I don't aggressively do the price war thing. I dont mind if mine sells second or third.

[texas_boy]

I'm a fairly new player and initially started crafting so I could supply my own gear and save a lot of gil, but fell in love with it and haven't looked back.

When I first started selling stuff on the market I would get really frustrated with the 1 gil undercutters and drop my price waaaay too much out of spite, not understanding how everything works. After a bit of time and experience I look at it as a game (well this *is* a game lol). Either undercut by a gil or match the price of the other undercutter in the vast majority of cases.

I will say this - you can make quite a bit of gil working the market, but you HAVE to be proactive. You can't just load up a retainers with dozens of items expecting them all to sell in a very short period of time without actively managing them I use no addons, no botting software or anything like that, but I spend a LOT of time gathering mats to craft stuff, crafting items and watching for trends. Every morning when I log in I check several broad categories - food, furniture, gear, mats, etc. to see what's selling and will gather mats and craft up those items in bulk. It changes every day, and I watch my auctions like a hawk, checking them once an hour and adjusting accordingly.

This is my endgame vs. running dungeons/raids. I find it very satisfying and think of it as pvp almost. Not everyone has the patience to gather, craft and manage their auctions, but if you do it will pay off in spades.

If you're new to crafting and selling on the market, don't take the 1 gil undercutters personally. Smile and reprice your wares to 1 gil under them and go about your day. If the price drops more than you're willing to sell for simply pull your stuff and wait a day or two and pop it back on the market.

Have fun with it!

[Canadane]

I regularly buy from the second or third cheapest option just because I hate undercutters, and gil is mostly meaningless anyway I am not here to pinch pennies.

[Darthgummibear]

Personally I love when people undercut by stupidly large amounts because I end up making a ton of gil for zero effort on my part.

[TristanX]

I usually undercut 1gil. I'll undercut by large amount if I feel the current price is too much. I sit on buyer's shoes too.