VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

[SherlottaEryut]

Three years ago, female Viera and male Hrothgar were introduced. On the 7th August 2019 (prior to the pandemic) Yoshi-P stated on a live letter that a decision was made by him and his team that both Viera and Hrothgar will not be able to equip hats. This choice was made in order for these races to, in Yoshi’s words; ‘retain their unique features’ BUT he stated that we would receive in future patches race-exclusive hairstyles in order to compensate for the limitations. So, SE… Where are they? Was the idea scrapped? Why are we missing our compensation as well as hats? We need more communication.

These two races, as you said yourself, are unique.. So, over 2 years of waiting in anticipation and we get 6 short and obviously the easiest to be implemented hairstyles. But honestly? Majority of the Viera are still wearing their race exclusive hairstyles which speaks volumes. This attempt at making the Viera race equal to the others by giving us the other races hairstyles is obviously not making up for the limitations, because even IF you gave us access to all modern aesthetics and mogstation we’re still less than the other races. We still can’t wear majority of hats, not even the job ones. Yes, you could argue that we received circlets, some hoods and glasses but that’s only because the character development team made this possible because THEY DID IT IN THEIR FREE TIME (Unpaid, I might add) SE, you are capable of making the changes, but from an outside perspective looking in, you aren’t making the time for it. Why are the Viera & Hrothgar a (what seems to be) low priority?

The decision to implement the gender counterparts before sorting out the pre-existing issues was not efficient. There has been little-to-no communication on the matter. With this thread, I am hoping that eventually more people will use it to voice their opinion and actually manage to grab SE’s attention… but I’m not going to hold my breath because anything related to these two races usually gets thrown to the back of the forums within a couple days. I can only hope others openly share their disappointment so we can get answers about SE’s official plans for these two races.

People, do not push Viera and Hrothgar at the back of the priority list again because when people disregard this issue by claiming it as unimportant, it’s why SE doesn’t take action with haste. High demand is what keeps winning. Think of this post everytime you tell a Viera to “get over it” yet start demanding butt sliders and playable ivalician moogles - remember Viera are low priority because you’re contributing to it by belittling how these two races are treated. I can only hope that we don’t get ignored for another 3 years because SE are too busy with creating the high-in-demand female Hrothgar.

[SherlottaEryut]

Whenever this subject arises on the forums I always have the exact same type of people say the same thing to me, so I’ll just attempt at counteracting those comments by nipping them in the bud in this OG post. If anyone has any questions or would like to debate with me feel free to. Have fun reading this…. Err, Frequently Mentioned Comments?

“You chose to play a race with limitations”
No, I chose to play a race that, in SE’s words, were unique and would get more customisations overtime. Viera are the only race in the FF universe that appeal to me. I have been a Viera fan for 10+ years since I received XII on the ps2. My character and account is dedicated to the ivalician Viera. It is not my fault that the other races do not appeal to me and should not be shunned by the community for wanting SE to uphold their end of the deal.

“Just Fantasia”
No. Read above. Also £5 for a Fantasia just because these races are getting almost no TLC? That’s a temporary solution to the Viera and Hrothgar issue, it doesn’t solve the actual problem.

“We all should be entitled to those Viera exclusive hairstyles it would be so unfair for the other races”
Whenever I get this comment I just can’t help but roll my eyes. The other races, who can wear all hairstyles and hats in the game have the audacity to act like they’d be so hard done by for not having Viera hair. Why don’t you Fantasia to a Viera if that’s the case? Oh wait- you don’t want to deal with the severe limitations, right? Why are you determined for Viera to constantly be “less than” your race? The developers made this crystal clear that both Hrothgar and Viera are too unique to be chucked into the same category as everyone else. These two races will NEVER be equal to the others in terms of headgear/potentially hairstyles so they deserve compensation for the limitations, just like SE originally said would happen. Deal with the divide and move on - maybe you’ll now think twice before begging SE for a new race when it’s obviously more work than they can handle. Let’s focus on what races we have now before requesting them to bring in new ones.

I know there will be people in the comment section who will attempt to essentially belittle my thread, so, I’ll just say this; you can admit when SE did a bad thing, it doesn’t make them a terrible company at all. It’s still my favourite gaming company & I’ve adored the FF franchise since I was a child and furthermore, we can’t deny their talent in both story telling and their passion for the game… but I will put my hands up and just say that this is not okay. The soul purpose of me creating my forum account was to bring fourth my ideas to the community and fight to make the Viera more appealing, but at this rate it’s looking bleak - I just want to be heard. This will be my final forum thread that I have started. I am sorry if people are tired of me posting the same thing.

[Quintessa]

Naturally as a Viera player (on 2 accounts at that), I share your thoughts on this. I'd be content if they added more variations of the existing hair.

[Driavna]

I am sorry if people are tired of me posting the same thing.

No, you are in the right. If someone else is tired they have two options: block so they no longer see what you post or stop going to a topic made by you.

[LaylaTsarra]

I think we'll be getting all the hair but headgear doubt it. They've pretty much said as much but I suppose that could change. I sincerely hope we'll see more hair styles for 6.1. Also any new styles released had better include Viera now.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I would love to go back to Viera, but I won't until they get some more work. Maybe once the female Hrothgar are completed, they'll go back and work on them all at once. I dunno, trying for optimism here.

[Kling-Klang]

Hats. Hats. Hats. Give me the hats.

[Retrisar]

Hat's... hah allow me to change my haircut!

[Zomkei]

hrothgar's situation just baffles me, tbh. i can't even imagine how that got past QA

[Raikai]

I agree with the OP, and would like to put something else in perspective regarding hats.

We, Viera (and Hroth), actually - have - some hats that aren't just glasses or tiaras available, follows this example:


So, as you can see... as long as the headpiece top is kinda flat, there's not a lot of issues in letting the ears clip through, right? You might ask why other items didn't get this treatment? Like the Calfskin Cap?

As you can see the ears would be just fine clipping through, so why this isn't happening for Viera? The most logical answer is: There is no "hat friendly" version of the Viera-exclusive hairstyles in the game.

However... There are MANY other headpieces like the 1st picture example, that won't show any hair because of the design, and there's enough room for the ears to clip through above (or be hidden, like the Pag'than helm of aiming), and yet Viera can't use those. If they would take their time to expand the list of items to other similar stuff, for example:

Let ears clip through:



Hide ears:




Of course, this is not a replacement for the hairstyles with hat friendly versions or any other kind of adaptation to make hats more accessible, but with the current situation, there is still room of improvement. Also... coming to think of it. Viera only have NINE unique hairstyles (not counting with bangs/no bangs versions) to create unique hat-friendly adaptations for.