VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

[Starshower]

Why do some of you have an obsession with saying hrothgar must be bestial? I want normal modern hairstyles as well! I'm happy with some of these new hairstyles, I think my hroth is looking really cute when I use it with the tamamo ears. I think my hroth is more man than beast, he's not some wild untamed animal. I think yes, we should get more options that fit, and more masculine ones, but I'd like the other hairstyles to keep coming. If you use tamamo / werewolf ears or horns those hairstyles work quite well!

[Cerbolt]

So I just checked out the new hairstyles for male viera and most of them give him a massive forehead. It looks horrible.

[Droxybrobotnik]

"Retain their unique features" eh... yeah, that just sounds like a sketchy way of saying that it's too much work. Imagine having a choice, I can think of a lot of hats that vieras, and hrothgar, could look absolutely adorabe on. Miqo'te ears are some of the cutest stuff in the game, yet guess what, every hat has been given a special shape to accomodate them, while a lot of them still rock emperors or a non covering hat. Square, stop being lazy, you're not fooling anyone, give these lovable tall ones the headwars they deserve.

[Minali]

Why do some of you have an obsession with saying hrothgar must be bestial? I want normal modern hairstyles as well! I'm happy with some of these new hairstyles, I think my hroth is looking really cute when I use it with the tamamo ears. I think my hroth is more man than beast, he's not some wild untamed animal. I think yes, we should get more options that fit, and more masculine ones, but I'd like the other hairstyles to keep coming. If you use tamamo / werewolf ears or horns those hairstyles work quite well!

I wouldn't call prefering hairstyles that resemble manes of lions "obsessive", considering we are talking about a species with the head of a lion, tiger stripes, fur (!) pattern and generic big cat ears with options for lynx fluff at the end. Hrothgars don't have to look like Queen Behemoth's little brother, but their general features are pretty much non-human in every manner, at least when it comes to the head (and tail). And from what I read, that their body is basically a copy of the roegadyn one (a bit bent in the back) is likely more a question of convenience when it comes to leg and foot gear and less of a design choice.

Also please have a look at the thread with hairstyle suggestions in this same subforum. What most people demand isn't straight up right out of the jungle, just hair that does resemble the animalistic (lion/tiger/leopard/..) origin. Fluffy or curly hair with big braids etc. isn't actually "bestial" after all anyway.

[Midareyukki]

Why do some of you have an obsession with saying hrothgar must be bestial? I want normal modern hairstyles as well! I'm happy with some of these new hairstyles, I think my hroth is looking really cute when I use it with the tamamo ears. I think my hroth is more man than beast, he's not some wild untamed animal. I think yes, we should get more options that fit, and more masculine ones, but I'd like the other hairstyles to keep coming. If you use tamamo / werewolf ears or horns those hairstyles work quite well!

Same can be said about you, then! Why the insistence on "normal" hairstyles?

We never said you weren't allowed to feel happy about these hairstyles. We just said that the way they were implemented was shoddy and dismissive, and the hairstyles themselves were kind of a low-effort pick that could have taken them two minutes. Look no further than 2Peanut's hair.

And perhaps not all of us want to resort to stupid fixes like the tamamo headband and werewolf ears. Some of us have other preferences for what should be on that already limiting headgear slot. For example, I don't want to part with my eyepatch. It's a part of my character's lore. Having to use Tamamo Headbands will get in the way of it.

Please think before you say things... We're not just randomly throwing bullshit and see what sticks on the wall, you know? We're here to make the race as complete as possible so that all of us can wear with no limitations or dumb Van Gogh cut-outs. And yes: that includes YOU.

Maybe you're happy with low effort work, but it doesn't mean others have to be.

These hairstyles would have come either way, it's just that for the most part they don't fit and need adjustments to fit. Again, look at 2Peanut. Asking for more race-appropriate hairstyles is not at all an obssession nor something any more over the top than asking for Jandelaine to work with our manes in general.

[SturmChurro]

I keep seeing quotes how Yoshida said initially that hrothgar (+viera) would originally get no hairstyles, and I know that can't be the case. So....?

[Denji]

Why do some of you have an obsession with saying hrothgar must be bestial? I want normal modern hairstyles as well! I'm happy with some of these new hairstyles, I think my hroth is looking really cute when I use it with the tamamo ears. I think my hroth is more man than beast, he's not some wild untamed animal. I think yes, we should get more options that fit, and more masculine ones, but I'd like the other hairstyles to keep coming. If you use tamamo / werewolf ears or horns those hairstyles work quite well!

I just want one with larger braids (like, really large. Baseball bat thick), a lion-like mane that isn't swept back and some short hair ones. As for the Karen ones, well. I wouldn't use them but if they kept the ears I wouldn't have even complained initially. I'm not going to be mad about options.

That said, jellybean head is clearly a quality problem and I have no idea how that got past testing - if it ever were tested first.

[Ranhansha]

We stan peanut headed hrothgars. They didn't even try with this one

Is it true they ask people not to mod because they have high standards to keep?

[juicybug]

Why do some of you have an obsession with saying hrothgar must be bestial? I want normal modern hairstyles as well! I'm happy with some of these new hairstyles, I think my hroth is looking really cute when I use it with the tamamo ears. I think my hroth is more man than beast, he's not some wild untamed animal. I think yes, we should get more options that fit, and more masculine ones, but I'd like the other hairstyles to keep coming. If you use tamamo / werewolf ears or horns those hairstyles work quite well!

then they should cater to both groups.
for people who want to look like a typical beef cake furry with metro hairstyles and for those who want to be a thunder cat with wild hairs.
im all for whatever makes hrothgar players happy.

[Vahlnir]

I keep seeing quotes how Yoshida said initially that hrothgar (+viera) would originally get no hairstyles, and I know that can't be the case. So....?

Yeah, they never said that. Or anyone quoting them on this are taking it out of context.