VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

[Caro178]

The unfortunate thing is it's only the default Viera hairstyles that don't include the hat hair models. The 20+ hairstyles they've added to the race since Endwalker's launch all have the existing necessary assets to enable functional hats. Of course, this is the type of thing I'm sure they would rather do all at once rather than implementing Viera headgear in some bizarre state of half completion where 2/3 of hairstyles function with headgear and the remaining 1/3 don't. That would be even weirder than what we already have where there's at least some consistency with what shows up and what doesn't. When it's fixed it'll probably be fixed all at the same time.

Also echoing the thought that I wish they would more selective when it comes to fitting circlets and bows. They don't test them on enough hairstyles or races and we end up in a situation where even out of the maybe 15% of headgear in the game that works on Viera most of it clips, floats or clips and floats.

[SturmChurro]

Also echoing the thought that I wish they would more selective when it comes to fitting circlets and bows. They don't test them on enough hairstyles or races and we end up in a situation where even out of the maybe 15% of headgear in the game that works on Viera most of it clips, floats or clips and floats.

Unfortunately, this is a problem for all races, or at least the ones I have played. Although viera does have some very egregious examples, there are pieces that just simply look better on viera, or rather fit the head better. At least depending on the selection of hairs you may use.

[RobynDaBank]

Yeah, the circlet I have on my character right now also floated on female Miqo'te, which made me stop using it at the time.

Also not a complaint, but I just can't help pointing out that I love this hairstyle that I'm using right now. With the highlights it almost looks like flames from the sides (fits my character's name ).

[Caro178]

Unfortunately, this is a problem for all races, or at least the ones I have played. Although viera does have some very egregious examples, there are pieces that just simply look better on viera, or rather fit the head better. At least depending on the selection of hairs you may use.

Yeah, it definitely is a problem on all races and isn't even at its worst on Viera. One of the ones that happens to bug me the most is the blue gemstone bow. It's so pretty, but for how hard I worked for it the fact that it functions on an extremely limited list of hairstyles without severe floating is pure suffering. That, and a big grind reward not even being dyeable is perplexing on all counts. I hope to see this changed one day.

[Midareyukki]

Unfortunately, this is a problem for all races, or at least the ones I have played. Although viera does have some very egregious examples, there are pieces that just simply look better on viera, or rather fit the head better. At least depending on the selection of hairs you may use.

Hrothgar have really awkward examples as well xD

Glasses are always pushed so far out...

...which in turn causes issues with monocles, as they're then just floating glass circles.

Headbands are just floating halos around our foreheads

I know honey, if I were you I wouldn't want to open my eyes for this travesty either.

Some accessories are also just casually floating off to the side

But the trade-off is that some hairstyles are supposed to be large enough to cover these flaws, I suppose???

But here's the thing. Even that comes with consequences:

I loved this circlet ; _ ;

In fact, this hairstyle guarantees I will NEVER see any earring I have on. None.

[Gwen_Lavellan]

Hrothgar have really awkward examples as well xD

Glasses are always pushed so far out...

...which in turn causes issues with monocles, as they're then just floating glass circles.

Headbands are just floating halos around our foreheads

I know honey, if I were you I wouldn't want to open my eyes for this travesty either.

Some accessories are also just casually floating off to the side

But the trade-off is that some hairstyles are supposed to be large enough to cover these flaws, I suppose???

But here's the thing. Even that comes with consequences:

I loved this circlet ; _ ;

In fact, this hairstyle guarantees I will NEVER see any earring I have on. None.

Oh, my…. How someone on the dev team could have been thinking “ok guys, this is good, let’s release this !” !??

[XianRo]

Have any viera who own it checked if the princess tiara fits now or does it still float a foot of your head? I checked a site once when looking at genderlocked glam and thought "oh my god who approved that" and since theyre degendering more glams, the Prince/Princess sets may be next in 6.4.
I probably wont get it (the princess gown clips hideously on everything due to its size) but we have to see if the tiara still floats that noticably badly

[grinkdaboy]

they probably don't put in as much effort because they know the hrothgar playerbase is already very minuscule compared to other races) that's not to say i don't like hrothgar, that's just what census data tells me

[Kazhar]

they probably don't put in as much effort because they know the hrothgar playerbase is already very minuscule compared to other races) that's not to say i don't like hrothgar, that's just what census data tells me

I'm not sure how true this is anymore. Yes, Hrothgar have been neglected for a long time and still is, but I think the ears controversy was a wake-up call for Square Enix. Ears are back, they stopped giving us tiny heads like they did almost 95% of the time with ShB helmets, a good chunk of the new hairstyles actually fit our heads now..
It seems there's a conscious effort on their part.
Being a Hrothgar now feels much better than it was just a year ago.

EDIT: (Now if we could get SOME NPC representation instead of absolutely nothing, it would be nice.)

[Yencat]

they probably don't put in as much effort because they know the hrothgar playerbase is already very minuscule compared to other races) that's not to say i don't like hrothgar, that's just what census data tells me

I'm not sure that's the reason. They seem to try and standardize the placement of these types of items to account for the largest features you can choose on a face, but Hrothgar's sloped forehead and lack of a human nose make the positioning more difficult without it clipping into the face.

It would be nice if they went and had a closer look and adjusted some of them though, those examples Midareyukki showed are pretty dire.