VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

[ronibosch]

As a fan of big cat bois (thanks, Housamo), I am pretty disappointed by the treatment of Hrothgar in FFXIV by SE.
Also, all of this talk about beastly characteristics (or lack thereof) made me realize how "human" FFXIV Viera look. I actually like the "monster feet" they had from previous games, but I understand that would complicate things in this particular game, where you can play a Viera and change their clothes.

[Adamantini]

As a fan of big cat bois (thanks, Housamo), I am pretty disappointed by the treatment of Hrothgar in FFXIV by SE.
Also, all of this talk of beastly characteristics (or lack thereof) made me realize how "human" FFXIV Viera look. I actually like the "monster feet" they had from previous games, but I understand that would complicate things in this particular game, where you can play a Viera and change their clothes.

in fact, it wouldn't be that complicated. Most boots already have heels, and the rest would have to be a bit of work to adapt existing shoes.

Nothing too complicated, we have examples of MMORPGs smaller than FFXIV that made it happen. Another example of a large MMORPG that manages to do this is WoW, where it has characters with paws, hooves, monstrous feet, and even skeletal ones.

Also, like many other things already mentioned, the community has already made vieras and hrothgars have paws, and adapted a series of shoes for them.

Exactly this. They don't seem to be showing any sign of going back on their initial intent of not giving them hats. I said this in more detail in a post of mine in the actual outfit thread, they could probably spend some time and make hat hair, and/or make more hats available, but they really seem to just not want to do it. I'm sure they are well aware these players want hats to be shown.

yes, in fact the currently released hair not being adapted for hats is a shot in my heart, and a proof that they are not even trying. But it's like I said before, since they didn't fulfill the previous promises, so I'm going to scream for having at least one race with the same "rights" as the others.

[ronibosch]

in fact, it wouldn't be that complicated. Most boots already have heels, and the rest would have to be a bit of work to adapt existing shoes.

Nothing too complicated, we have examples of MMORPGs smaller than FFXIV that made it happen. Another example of a large MMORPG that manages to do this is WoW, where it has characters with paws, hooves, monstrous feet, and even skeletal ones.

Also, like many other things already mentioned, the community has already made vieras and hrothgars have paws, and adapted a series of shoes for them.

Really? That actually makes me feel even more sad. If we can't get hats, it would nice to at least get paws (and claws) for V/H. Didn't they promise unique features for both to make up for the lack of hats? I may have misinterpreted what they meant.

[Adamantini]

Really? That actually makes me feel even more sad. If we can't get hats, it would nice to at least get paws (and claws) for V/H. Didn't they promise unique features for both to make up for the lack of hats? I may have misinterpreted what they meant.

They could add the option of having paws or not. I would buy a fantasia just to change those ridiculous feet into paws as it should have been.

[RyuDragnier]

Not one for the look of paws on Hrothgar personally, as then I'd want them to run on all fours like Charr do when a weapon isn't drawn (I love ANET for doing that).

[Bergfinn]

seeing this, I wonder how many people started playing the game as viera or hrothgar, unaware of the restrictions, and ended up getting frustrated.

A friend of mine started out as a highlander but bought the game after 1 week. Even though I warned him about the restrictions, he created a hrothgar. After witnessing the disregard for the race, he ended up using a fantasia to become an Au'ra. He says that if SE stops this stupidity, he goes back to hrothgar, as he finds all races in the game "human with pet ears"

Tbh one thing that kept me away from FFXIV for so long was the lack of a proper non human race. It baffles me when people talks about how "this game is full of furries", when we barely have any due only having a single beast like race that barely anyone plays due being half made.

[RyuDragnier]

Tbh one thing that kept me away from FFXIV for so long was the lack of a proper non human race. It baffles me when people talks about how "this game is full of furries", when we barely have any due only having a single beast like race that barely anyone plays due being half made.

They think Miqote qualifies as furry...no, that's nekomimi, which is anime waifu stuff.

[Denji]

Tbh one thing that kept me away from FFXIV for so long was the lack of a proper non human race. It baffles me when people talks about how "this game is full of furries", when we barely have any due only having a single beast like race that barely anyone plays due being half made.

wow had more furries on day 1 lmfao; although really only one was a playable race but, still.

[Adamantini]

Tbh one thing that kept me away from FFXIV for so long was the lack of a proper non human race. It baffles me when people talks about how "this game is full of furries", when we barely have any due only having a single beast like race that barely anyone plays due being half made.

to be honest, i love bestial races. The further from human, the better for me. But in FFXIV we don't have the option of being anything but a human with animal ears.
Even though the hrothgar is the only option, the fact that he has feet, is hunchbacked, and his emotes demonstrate that they are silly and docile creatures, makes me stay away from the race. I chose Viera for the lore of them being recluses, a more tribal/savage population...

These days I saw on twitter an art of an au'ra with dragon paws. It made me so much wish they were like that.

[Raskbuck]

Tbh one thing that kept me away from FFXIV for so long was the lack of a proper non human race. It baffles me when people talks about how "this game is full of furries", when we barely have any due only having a single beast like race that barely anyone plays due being half made.

WoW is a lot more furry than FFXIV, and yet I've seen some brilliant minds argue online that Tauren and Worgen are not furries because they are based on "mythological creatures", lol.

The biggest problem FFXIV had for me in terms of customization, is that every race before Hrothgar was just Humans with added features. Tall human, small human, human with pointy ears, human with cat/bunny ears, bulky human, and so on. I consider Hrothgar the only race to break that mold, but everything in the game is so standardized, they couldn't implement it properly without leaving some critical features out.

FFXIV's competitors really blow the game out of the water in terms of implementing anthro/bestial races.