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    Yencat's Avatar
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    Feiya Harlow
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    Odin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Unless they've recently removed it there is actually a warning when you create a Hrothgar or a Viera saying that certain hairstyles and headgear will be unavailable, it wasn't there originally but they added it a little while after Shadowbringers launched after complaints about it.

    EDIT: Just tried to create a Viera and there was no warning, either I'm starting to lose it or they considered those 6 hairstyles they added enough to remove the warning.

    Maybe it's only after you use a Fantasia? I could've sworn it was there after character creation as well but it was so long ago I took the screenshot I honestly can't remember. It mentions "changes" so it may well have been after a Fantasia use.

    I agree it should definitely be there during character creation though, even though you get a free Fantasia it's not logical for a new player to think they'd have to preemptively Google about playable race issues with hairstyles and headgear.

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    Last edited by Yencat; 02-21-2022 at 04:44 AM.

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    LuciaMirain's Avatar
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    Nhyzaria Summerwynde
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    Omega
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    Just here to complain a bit more over all the hairstyles I have gathered that I can't use which makes it harder to make glams since the few hairstyles we have clip with alot of gear.

    Also still confused about the chosen 6 hairstyles (although I love the karen one). Hopeful that we will get more soon, please gives us more soon I just want what I paid for like everyone else tyvm!

    *frustrated noises*
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    X'toldha Bihlr
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    I'ma sad already to changed from Viera but honestly refreshing all these hats I saved and hairstyles. Bunny my favorite still, but happy to change until they get fix
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    Nhyzaria Summerwynde
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meowdyj View Post
    I'ma sad already to changed from Viera but honestly refreshing all these hats I saved and hairstyles. Bunny my favorite still, but happy to change until they get fix
    I am feeling the itch as well but I always regret it when I fantasia, I just love how my bunny looks and no other character I have created comes close. I just wish miqotes and au ras were taller. Would love to be able to use the hairstyles I purchased for real money at least.
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Optimist: actual new hairstyles, and Hroth CC is overhauled and their hair and face are completely separated and can use the aesthetician freely

    Pessimist: face 2, the most popular face/"hair" gets copy pasted into the other 3 and call it a day. Still need to Fantasia

    Realist: still need Fantasia, but all 8 hairstyles are copied onto each of the 4 faces, making a total of 32 "faces" to choose from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Optimist: actual new hairstyles, and Hroth CC is overhauled and their hair and face are completely separated and can use the aesthetician freely

    Pessimist: face 2, the most popular face/"hair" gets copy pasted into the other 3 and call it a day. Still need to Fantasia

    Realist: still need Fantasia, but all 8 hairstyles are copied onto each of the 4 faces, making a total of 32 "faces" to choose from.
    If the word from the grapevine isnt a liar.

    6.1 we WILL see New hairstyles. And their hair and face will be separated. Likely this means the aestheticism will be used freely
    No need to Fantasia, an issue I personally believe was due to them taking shortcuts to get things done in time for 5.0
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    Ares Stardust
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    If the word from the grapevine isnt a liar.

    6.1 we WILL see New hairstyles. And their hair and face will be separated. Likely this means the aestheticism will be used freely
    No need to Fantasia, an issue I personally believe was due to them taking shortcuts to get things done in time for 5.0

    This is everything I want... Let it be real...


    I can't see them updating the hairs for hrothgar and still making you buy fantasia to change it... I believe they're not that evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    If the word from the grapevine isnt a liar.

    6.1 we WILL see New hairstyles. And their hair and face will be separated. Likely this means the aestheticism will be used freely
    No need to Fantasia, an issue I personally believe was due to them taking shortcuts to get things done in time for 5.0
    What makes me uncertain of separating hair and face is that you can customize the hair through the facial tab, like removing bangs or braids, so I'm not sure if they'd either make those details compatible with all hairstyles, or remove the option altogether. That's why I think the "easier" solution would be to just copy paste more variations of each face with each different hairstyle, like how they did to add derplander's stubble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

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    Ares Stardust
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    What makes me uncertain of separating hair and face is that you can customize the hair through the facial tab, like removing bangs or braids, so I'm not sure if they'd either make those details compatible with all hairstyles, or remove the option altogether. That's why I think the "easier" solution would be to just copy paste more variations of each face with each different hairstyle, like how they did to add derplander's stubble.

    I think they will do it like they do with viera, have each of the hairstyles in 2 variations, with and without the added detail, and then remove the detail from the facial features tab. So it would look like we have more hairstyles but its the same hairstyle with a variant.
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starshower View Post
    I think they will do it like they do with viera, have each of the hairstyles in 2 variations, with and without the added detail, and then remove the detail from the facial features tab. So it would look like we have more hairstyles but its the same hairstyle with a variant.
    I think this makes sense. But we are just speculating.
    Also heard word that some features on the faces are being adjusted, things like the Face 4 Ronso Horn being Usable on all the faces.
    But, gotta wait till March 4th, with great hope we will see and hear good things!
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