VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

[Iscah]

I didnt know anyone cares about jewelry

Mostly necklaces and earrings, which can complement glamours really nicely if you pick the right ones. There are also some nice bracelets but the can be hard to work with around sleeves.

My Viera tends to use the flower earrings in coordinating colours with his outfit. It lets me add an extra splash of colour higher up on the outfit.

For examples with my Viera:

They're not a structurally huge part of the outfit, which it why I mentioned them only as an aside, but I still think it can make a difference to the outfit if you find the right ones that look good with it. Even the simple hoop earrings from ARR come in a few striking colour versions – the red Manderville earrings are great, and there's a cyan blue version that can look good paired with techy gear that has the same glow.

[Shinkuno]

Mostly necklaces and earrings, which can complement glamours really nicely if you pick the right ones. There are also some nice bracelets but the can be hard to work with around sleeves.

My Viera tends to use the flower earrings in coordinating colours with his outfit. It lets me add an extra splash of colour higher up on the outfit.

For examples with my Viera:

They're not a structurally huge part of the outfit, which it why I mentioned them only as an aside, but I still think it can make a difference to the outfit if you find the right ones that look good with it. Even the simple hoop earrings from ARR come in a few striking colour versions – the red Manderville earrings are great, and there's a cyan blue version that can look good paired with techy gear that has the same glow.

Even this upclose they are pretty tiny and forgettable

The only time they are noticed are closeup face screenshots

[Bunnycake]

Mostly necklaces and earrings, which can complement glamours really nicely if you pick the right ones. There are also some nice bracelets but the can be hard to work with around sleeves.

My Viera tends to use the flower earrings in coordinating colours with his outfit. It lets me add an extra splash of colour higher up on the outfit.

For examples with my Viera:

They're not a structurally huge part of the outfit, which it why I mentioned them only as an aside, but I still think it can make a difference to the outfit if you find the right ones that look good with it. Even the simple hoop earrings from ARR come in a few striking colour versions – the red Manderville earrings are great, and there's a cyan blue version that can look good paired with techy gear that has the same glow.

Eeeee, I use that earring for crafters and gathers!

[Pip_Chick]

"80%" of any given outfit (plus jewellery) is entirely wearable by Viera and quite likely to look good on them.

And then there's maybe a 50/50 chance of getting a hat which doesn't work or some other kind of headpiece (even sometimes a hat) which does work.

It's an outfit that costs IRL money. It shouldn't be rocket science that people who buy said outfit want to be able to use the entirety of that outfit, not just 80% of it. Regardless of how good outfits look on Viera/Hrothgar, they should be able to wear them, just like all the other races.

I don't even like the outfit that comes with the hat and would settle for the one that doesn't. But this ain't about me, it's about the bad precedes that SE sets, one in which they can exclude races from certain outfits and remove racial features. The hat removes Miquo'te ears as well, it's just bad quality. The hat only though cause the rest of the outfit is good, but I do not support this so I am not going to buy it.

[Iscah]

It's an outfit that costs IRL money. It shouldn't be rocket science that people who buy said outfit want to be able to use the entirety of that outfit, not just 80% of it.

The person I was quoting isn't talking about the purchased outfits, they're claiming that 80% of "crafted, tomes, savage, and dungeons" gear is unequippable on their character.

[VerdeLuck]

The person I was quoting isn't talking about the purchased outfits, they're claiming that 80% of "crafted, tomes, savage, and dungeons" gear is unequippable on their character.

Yeah and it's true, the vast majority of new outfits that get released have no equippable headgear for viera or hroth. The outfits are designed with the headgear in mind, people want to use the headgear. Coming into a thread where people are rightfully upset that their race is being treated as an afterthought by SE when they create new content by claiming that "Actually you can wear earrings instead" or that there are a small number of headgear that work with the race doesn't change any of that. I want to be able to use the new gear, I want to be able to wear the FULL AF gear. I want to be able to use the full dungeon gear and the full raid gear I don't want to be told "Wait until 7.0" or "Just Fantasia" for the 100th time by someone who only plays viera on alt characters.

[EliaStormblade]

I mean... not saying you're wrong in your complaints, but it's not like they hide the fact that the gear isn't equippable by Hroth/Viera.

[VerdeLuck]

I mean... not saying you're wrong in your complaints, but it's not like they hide the fact that the gear isn't equippable by Hroth/Viera.

The question isn't whether it's labeled, the question is why almost 4 years into these races existing in-game are they still making items that they can't use? They have had plenty of time to figure out how to make things work for all of the races, and saying it's 2.0 spaghetti code, ps4 limitations, or whatever else is growing thin.
What are we supposed to do even if it is communicated? Drop more money on top of our subscription for a Fantasia just to not be stuck on a half finished race? Make an alt and grind for 500+ hours to get another character to where our main character is?
There's a warning but even with a warning, people have no recourse against it other than voicing their displeasure with the developers about it. Which, is the exact point of this thread.

[EliaStormblade]

The question isn't whether it's labeled, the question is why almost 4 years into these races existing in-game are they still making items that they can't use? They have had plenty of time to figure out how to make things work for all of the races, and saying it's 2.0 spaghetti code, ps4 limitations, or whatever else is growing thin.
What are we supposed to do even if it is communicated? Drop more money on top of our subscription for a Fantasia just to not be stuck on a half finished race? Make an alt and grind for 500+ hours to get another character to where our main character is?
There's a warning but even with a warning, people have no recourse against it other than voicing their displeasure with the developers about it. Which, is the exact point of this thread.

I'm just saying that a lot of people are really framing this as if they're being misled, when that isn't the case.

[XianRo]

I mean... not saying you're wrong in your complaints, but it's not like they hide the fact that the gear isn't equippable by Hroth/Viera.

yes but if someone who plays those races buys the set, theyre charged the same price, to get less out of their purchase. So its totally unfair to those customers bc they do nothing to solve this for 3.5 years