VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

[SlouchyBard]

Ugly rabbit?? Um. Have they ever seen Viera? Far from ugly. But if someone wants to refer to Viera as ugly. I'd rather be a Viera than Catclone#4896221

[Caro178]

Ugly rabbit?? Um. Have they ever seen Viera? Far from ugly. But if someone wants to refer to Viera as ugly. I'd rather be a Viera than Catclone#4896221

Yeah, I dunno. I don't get it. Just took screenshots of what was said. I obviously think Viera look gorgeous. Their flaw is lack of headgear options and hairstyles. They have beautiful faces and eyes with vibrant colours, detailed textures and some of the best default racial hairstyles in the game. They also have the most beautiful darker skin tons. If they had launched complete (full headgear, full hairstyles) I'm sure more folks would have swapped and stayed. How popular the race is even with the shortcoming and being locked to an expansion speaks volumes.

[Midareyukki]

Quick search on twitter and I haven't seen those tweets around... but given the immensity of the FF14 community I doubt they'd have any relevance.

I do agree with this tweet though.

[Yencat]

Ugly rabbit?? Um. Have they ever seen Viera?

The poor thing must've had COVID, complete lack of taste.

[Yencat]

Quick search on twitter and I haven't seen those tweets around... but given the immensity of the FF14 community I doubt they'd have any relevance.

I do agree with this tweet though.

Why do people think it's only two? They've been showing 2 and adding like 6 (or more like last patch) since they started adding them for us.

[Midareyukki]

Why do people think it's only two? They've been showing 2 and adding like 6 (or more like last patch) since they started adding them for us.

I'll believe that when I see more than two new ones on the Hrothgar tab then.

It might be the case for Viera, if so great. But for Hrothgar the updates have been rather piddly.

Either way, the sentiment there is that these updates are short and staggered across the expansion. It took one week for an amateur modder to make every headgear available for us since Endwalker's release. Not to mention the work done to port hairstyles over.

More like "without being under schedule or supervisors or working on other priorities and doing whatever the hell they want".

Can we stop overselling how special modders are doing work anyone can easily do? The passion isnt that special.

No. Because the problem isn't "passion". If anything you're the one overselling it by calling it that.

The problem is effort. The problem is time. And the problem is not allocating resources to stuff that's already been proven to take quite little time to do, instead of squashing a Hrothgar's skull into a Peanut.

Also, your modding phobia needs to chill for a minute. Because at no point did anyone say that modders were the best thing in the universe and that SE should work at their pace. What was said is that they at least prove it's doable without hurdles. Something Square has since lied about.

[Nav_Blue]

I'll believe that when I see more than two new ones on the Hrothgar tab then.

It might be the case for Viera, if so great. But for Hrothgar the updates have been rather piddly.

Either way, the sentiment there is that these updates are short and staggered across the expansion. It took one week for an amateur modder to make every headgear available for us since Endwalker's release. Not to mention the work done to port hairstyles over.

To paraphrase, we really have no reason to believe it will be any more than the two. The last patch added 6, but that is only one sample, which a trend it does not make.

[Kazhar]

To paraphrase, we really have no reason to believe it will be any more than the two. The last patch added 6, but that is only one sample, which a trend it does not make.

Both Viera patches also added 6 though, and Square Enix delivers everything on a strict schedule. For this game, a tiny sample usually does mean a trend.

[Nav_Blue]

Both Viera patches also added 6 though, and Square Enix delivers everything on a strict schedule. For this game, a tiny sample usually does mean a trend.

I did only want to paraphrase but here goes...

By the logic of including multiple patches on Viera's behalf, there is nothing stopping us from including all patches beginning from 5.0 onward. Now, my math may be off, but for now I'll say that includes something like 14 patches.

Now with that sample size, it leaves us with a trend of about 0.43 new styles for Hrothgar.

Assuming nothing has changed since the Devs went on record saying that adding new styles would take a very long time; guessing that we're only getting 2 is quite generous.

[Pip_Chick]

Why do people think it's only two? They've been showing 2 and adding like 6 (or more like last patch) since they started adding them for us.

Probably because they only show 2 models at a time which makes it easier to think that they added only those 2 rather than a whole arrangement, I think it would make it easier for the players to see just how many are added if they were to include a list of the hairstyles added for the patch. I don't think it would take that long either and it would make the people stop thinking they make 2 per patch instead of 6.