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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Viera ears do move, they jiggle a little bit when they move around.
    what I mean is that they are static across all emotes. Since we won't have hats, what would it cost to add a little "life" to them, just like in the miqo'tes?

    their biggest mistake was adding the floppy ears. Clearly it would be a lot easier to get the ears through the helmets if it weren't for those damn floppy ears, which I barely see used on my server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantini View Post
    what I mean is that they are static across all emotes. Since we won't have hats, what would it cost to add a little "life" to them, just like in the miqo'tes?

    their biggest mistake was adding the floppy ears. Clearly it would be a lot easier to get the ears through the helmets if it weren't for those damn floppy ears, which I barely see used on my server.
    Do rabbit ears even move around that much in real life? Admittedly, I don't know much about them, even though I did have a little bunny when I was little.

    I mean, I wouldn't be against it if they had made them move around a tiny bit in emotes, but I just don't see this as an actual issue. I'm sorry. I suppose if they add future emotes, people could make the request to have some new more expressive emotes for viera. I will say, I do still have a little bit of hope for viera in regards to hairstyles - I'm washing my hands of hrothgar though. Although, I think the ship has sailed in terms of them getting racial unique hair at anytime in the future. Viera players will just have to hope the shared hairstyles occasionally look good, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Do rabbit ears even move around that much in real life? Admittedly, I don't know much about them, even though I did have a little bunny when I was little.

    I mean, I wouldn't be against it if they had made them move around a tiny bit in emotes, but I just don't see this as an actual issue. I'm sorry. I suppose if they add future emotes, people could make the request to have some new more expressive emotes for viera. I will say, I do still have a little bit of hope for viera in regards to hairstyles - I'm washing my hands of hrothgar though. Although, I think the ship has sailed in terms of them getting racial unique hair at anytime in the future. Viera players will just have to hope the shared hairstyles occasionally look good, I guess.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP8u...channel=edepot

    As prey, rabbits' ears aren't just for cute. They have a function for them to know where the danger is coming from, and they do have movable ears, to be able to locate where noises around them come from.
    You can tell if a rabbit is scared, relaxed, angry, just by looking at the placement of its ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Do rabbit ears even move around that much in real life? Admittedly, I don't know much about them, even though I did have a little bunny when I was little.
    They move their ears in the same manner that a lot of other animals do, usually indicating what they're feeling. So basically, they move around a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantini View Post
    what I mean is that they are static across all emotes. Since we won't have hats, what would it cost to add a little "life" to them, just like in the miqo'tes?

    their biggest mistake was adding the floppy ears. Clearly it would be a lot easier to get the ears through the helmets if it weren't for those damn floppy ears, which I barely see used on my server.
    This is something I always wanted to happen. Someone once made the example of them "scanning" the area with their ears while using the /lookout emote. That would be neat! But for that to work, they would have to adjust every emote for each ear type separately. They are pretty different from each other. Sometimes I wish they would have just gone with one ear type, and made that one customizable. For example being able to give them fuzzy/fluffy ends, damaged parts or spots, and stuff like that. I think headgear would have been also much easier to adjust.


    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantini View Post
    Yes, I know they said there would never be hats. But they also said that we would get new and exclusive hair, as well as exclusive features in character creation.

    Well, I don't know where the exclusive character creation features are, and to be honest, after 3 years of release, we only received old hair, which they also said we wouldn't receive.
    That would be the different ear types for Viera, which funnily enough limits them even more!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    This is something I always wanted to happen. Someone once made the example of them "scanning" the area with their ears while using the /lookout emote. That would be neat! But for that to work, they would have to adjust every emote for each ear type separately. They are pretty different from each other. Sometimes I wish they would have just gone with one ear type, and made that one customizable. For example being able to give them fuzzy/fluffy ends, damaged parts or spots, and stuff like that. I think headgear would have been also much easier to adjust.

    That would be the different ear types for Viera, which funnily enough limits them even more!


    If you have the link for this, I would love to see it. Whenever I make an emote, I wonder what it would be like if SE still had some love for this game.

    As for the helmets, It wouldn't necessarily need to make one for each ear. It would be enough for them to model the helmets, so that they fit all ears, which is possible, as we have examples in the community of how to do it.

    What I've heard is that the ears of female vieras really weren't made for that, which makes the helmets need to be shaped just for them, and sometimes they need a total redesign. This is not the case with male Vieras, as some sacred soul thought of this when developing them.

    My solution to this would be to give each active player a fantasia, and redesign the female viera's ears same as the male ones, so they would only need to design a helmet for the race, not a separate helmet for female and one for male.

    But designing separate helms for viera female, male, and hrothgar is not the end of the world either. A single person could already do this job. I wouldn't need to release all helmets at once, I would be happy with some helmets being released per patch.
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    making every single new hat invisible is just rubbing salt on the wound at this point, I can't even be angry anymore. seeing that the ameliance glam hat doesn't show up on hrothgar and viera just made me go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantini View Post
    If you have the link for this, I would love to see it. Whenever I make an emote, I wonder what it would be like if SE still had some love for this game.

    As for the helmets, It wouldn't necessarily need to make one for each ear. It would be enough for them to model the helmets, so that they fit all ears, which is possible, as we have examples in the community of how to do it.

    What I've heard is that the ears of female vieras really weren't made for that, which makes the helmets need to be shaped just for them, and sometimes they need a total redesign. This is not the case with male Vieras, as some sacred soul thought of this when developing them.

    My solution to this would be to give each active player a fantasia, and redesign the female viera's ears same as the male ones, so they would only need to design a helmet for the race, not a separate helmet for female and one for male.

    But designing separate helms for viera female, male, and hrothgar is not the end of the world either. A single person could already do this job. I wouldn't need to release all helmets at once, I would be happy with some helmets being released per patch.
    boy I just want the neoishgardian hats, paid mogstation hats and lv1 all glams to work lmao.
    Hell BD3 doesnt even need to do the work. All hats have been made wearable with earholes for viera by 1 (UNO!) college student.
    Im praying every night they realize hrothgar and viera would actually love love love to have a gearslot work for them and the h/v hat mod is added to the game.
    Like they cant not know we want hats everytime the post on twitter about new events half the comments are h/v players saying "wow thanks!" with a picture of their Wol wearing the thing in the gearslot yet it doesnt show up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiRon View Post
    boy I just want the neoishgardian hats, paid mogstation hats and lv1 all glams to work lmao.
    Hell BD3 doesnt even need to do the work. All hats have been made wearable with earholes for viera by 1 (UNO!) college student.
    Im praying every night they realize hrothgar and viera would actually love love love to have a gearslot work for them and the h/v hat mod is added to the game.
    Like they cant not know we want hats everytime the post on twitter about new events half the comments are h/v players saying "wow thanks!" with a picture of their Wol wearing the thing in the gearslot yet it doesnt show up.
    I believe I know who you're talking about. I follow this person on twitter, and that's how I opened my eyes to see how a liar SE is, about saying that making helmets for hrothgar and viera is impossible. I won't mention that person's name here, so as not to get him in trouble.

    Every day I see a post from SE on twitter, I go out of my way to complain about the helmets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiRon View Post
    Like they cant not know we want hats everytime the post on twitter about new events half the comments are h/v players saying "wow thanks!" with a picture of their Wol wearing the thing in the gearslot yet it doesnt show up.
    Yeah, and I'm sure people responding this way about the situation is what will make change. They told you all what you were getting into with these races. If people want to know why Yoshida might have responded the way he did in regards to the hrothgar hair, maybe this is part of the reason why.

    I'm not going to say I haven't myself reacted in a similar fashion, but at least I know it probably won't accomplish anything, even if it feels good to vent on occasion.
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