VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

[SherlottaEryut]

They can continue with the pandemic excuse of limited resources for a long time. If you look at what came out in EW alot of it was just reskins of already existing gear, for instance. I imagine that for now anything "new" will be limited since it requires more resources. Is it right? No, ofcourse not. We deserve better. But 6 hairstyles after 2 years, and specifically THOSE hairstyles, say alot. I am curious what 6.1 brings, since it is supposed to be an update for hrothgar. I hope viera also get an update then.

Unpopular opinion, but it also doesn't help that they spent a considerable amount of time creating male Viera, instead of fixing the issues with female Viera and male Hrothgar. There was no urgency for male Viera, we could have waited 2+ years without them. SE can hide behind the "its a pandemic" excuse but it's long worn out because it's evident they prioritised a races' gender counterpart instead of working on the ones we already have. I'm curious what 6.1 will bring us, but if SE manage to fix Hrothgars ridiculous 'fantasia to change haircut' issue then that'll at least gain them some credit for actually trying to make our situation better.

[Araxes]

I only went back to Miqo'te cause literally ALL of the in Game available Hairstyles for male Viera look feminin. The only one that doesnt is from the Shop and it only fits certain glamthemes.

[TW-Luna]

Realistically, I feel like bringing all the aesthetician hairstyles to viera is a more reasonable ask than completely new styles that could only be used on one race and one gender. Just my feeling on the matter.

As for the hats topic. It may be almost cliche at this point, but modders have done it. Able to turn hats on and off with the changing of a checkbox in the item metadata. Not all of them are gonna look right, with how viera ears float on the head, but a majority do. On top of that, they've also created hat compatible versions of base hairstyles.

So it's not impossible, it was just most likely work that was instead sacrificed at the alter of the MSQ. (In favor of the MSQ and other major features)

[flipwizardmagoo]

As a player who has only ever played Viera and whose SO only played Hrothgar, it’s literally a dream of ours to have something, anything. I shouldn’t have to leave so many of my glams with empty helmet slots because the few options we have are either getting repetitive (I’ve used the flower crown more times than I can count, and I’ve used silly horns so often because I just wanted to wear something cool) or just aren’t excited at all, ie a few goggles, masks, etc. I forgive and excuse all the past items, but after implementing these two races, there is NO reason to continue making set after set and excluding us.

[GrigoriMarbas]

I wish we at least got the few "unlockable" hairstyles that other races have. I don't want anything unique or special, just give me a regular haircut with some space for the bunny ears.

For example, when I started playing I was absolutely in love with the "form and function" hairstyle and went to buy it off the board once I had enough saved up. Not a nice surprise that the race I bought Shadowbringers for, a couple months before EW, magically didn't support that.

[Otter_McTobbs]

All I want is the red mage hat for my hrothgar. That’s all

[NorthernLadMSP]

I simply do not understand the limitation excuse they keep giving. They literally create these headpieces that work with Elezen ears, Miqo ears, Lala ears and Au Ra horns but some bunny ears they can't handle?

Oh and don't even get me started on the new items coming out now that they implement with this ridiculous limitation. For example, I can almost guarantee the new All Saint's Wake hat won't work.

[Kolsykol]

I wouldn't honestly care if the ears just disappeared with helmets, if people didn't like it they could just not use the helmets.
Not saying they shouldn't add pockets or holes the ears could go through ( altho if I wore a helmet and had those ears I'd want them protected lol, it's a miracle any Viera seeing combat still has them intact ), but just if they wanted a simple solution.

'' It doesn't make sense '' etc etc, I mean...
Why does my character get a magical breast reduction in so much gear?
It's not like it's '' making sense '' or is consistent anyways.
It's a bit funny too when the same people complain about revealing gear not making sense but then want their ears and tails to be out.
It'd be easier to lop them off than to get a hit in anywhere on the torso, your ears and tail wouldn't be important to protect?
Logic has no real place here imo.

It's the same with tails if I had a tail I'd probably bind it down and tuck it in or something, why would you want to have your tail out if you're wearing armor if people want to talk about logic then that should be the real question.

[NorthernLadMSP]

With a hat like this, ears sticking through would actually look really terrible. For this hat, all they have to do is hide the ears. You know that's what they'll do for Miqote. I don't understand why it's so difficult to do the same thing with Viera.

[HollowedDoll]

With a hat like this, ears sticking through would actually look really terrible. For this hat, all they have to do is hide the ears. You know that's what they'll do for Miqote. I don't understand why it's so difficult to do the same thing with Viera.

The "difficulty" lies in the fact that none of the viera hairstyles possess a hair deform that would be applied when wearing a hat, and they don't seem keen on doing it, despite that being the standard for all the other hairs they've released. If at some point they do this, then they could follow the example of Miqote as per hiding or clipping through.