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  1. #11
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    Lecru's Avatar
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    Lecruidant Longclaw
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    Excalibur
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    Archer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Ah yes, because having housing for everyone in a theme park MMO is totally the same as handing out easier wins to the hardest content in the game. Geezus people, learn how to form a proper argument.
    "I paid for the game, I deserver a house" is the same argument just with different words as "I paid for the game, I deserve the loot from all content". Period. You wanna talk about learning proper arguments. Might wanna get one before you come back here and try that again. ALL of these people who whined and complained about housing and going against Macro users and what not are gonna be REAL funny to watch complain now that they have to go against EVERY SINGLE PERSON that was off doing something else besides trying to get a house. I broke my fingers for 3 days on my controller to get my house 5 years ago (My one on Malboro was easy as I was the first there when housing FIRST came out). But on Excalibur I waited 10 hours a day at a placard to click. With like 5 others there. Now? All of the people complaining will get a chance against the people that otherwise don't really care to have a house. But those same people will figure "Eh, I'll just put a ticket in and go do what I was doing before". Ya'll never use your heads and it shows.
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  2. #12
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    Saber Maxwell
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    Faerie
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    I thought they implemented the lottery already?
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    I either buy my own sandwich or I end up with pork-nostrils.

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    Julianna Arrisit
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    Jenova
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    It's funny how one streamer can research and get overwhelming evidence. Not only that get the postings for how this person operates, how many houses he has sold at what prices and even calculated their earnings in US dollars since the beginnings of his operation that are blatantly advertised?

    Why Square Enix wasn't on top of this one months ago and it wasn't shut down in all this time? Why the company is letting people like this dip into paying subscriber's pocket to take money that should be going toward things like fixing the housing system? It didn't take this streamer weeks or months of research but a few days to look into this, so why is SE slacking when it comes to RMT? I would love to know this.
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  4. #14
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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Boo Box
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    Rafflesia
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    "I paid for the game, I deserver a house" is the same argument just with different words as "I paid for the game, I deserve the loot from all content". Period. You wanna talk about learning proper arguments. Might wanna get one before you come back here and try that again. ALL of these people who whined and complained about housing and going against Macro users and what not are gonna be REAL funny to watch complain now that they have to go against EVERY SINGLE PERSON that was off doing something else besides trying to get a house. I broke my fingers for 3 days on my controller to get my house 5 years ago (My one on Malboro was easy as I was the first there when housing FIRST came out). But on Excalibur I waited 10 hours a day at a placard to click. With like 5 others there. Now? All of the people complaining will get a chance against the people that otherwise don't really care to have a house. But those same people will figure "Eh, I'll just put a ticket in and go do what I was doing before". Ya'll never use your heads and it shows.
    Why do you think that housing should be limited in a theme park game? Who cares what all of us current and previous home owners had to go through to get our house, it's pathetic that housing is still limited in this game. Do you want an award or something for wasting 10 hours of your day? Really confused why that's the tangent you chose to go off on.
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  5. #15
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    AngelCheese77's Avatar
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    Bjartur Arnason
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    I thought they implemented the lottery already?
    Not yet. I think it’s in a later 6.x patch per the EW notes
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  6. #16
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    Negative. You have options. Like Apartments and FC rooms. Those of us that put time in standing and clicking deserver houses. Nice try though.

    I suppose next you'll tell me that every single person should be able to complete Savage/Ultimates. Which isn't the case.
    I mean—everyone can complete Savages and Ultimates if they put in the time and effort to learn their job/role and the content. It is only gated by those who either don’t seek out the challenge, or who don’t rise to it.

    That said, I agree with Skivvy. Asking for every player to have access to what essentially boils down to casual-level content is not the same as asking the developers to hand out Savage achievements, titles, and weapons. Nice attempt at a strawman, though. Definitely haven’t seen that one used before.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 01-10-2022 at 09:15 AM.
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  7. #17
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    Negative. You have options. Like Apartments and FC rooms. Those of us that put time in standing and clicking deserver houses. Nice try though.

    I suppose next you'll tell me that every single person should be able to complete Savage/Ultimates. Which isn't the case.
    Comparing apples and tomatoes because they're both red fruits huh.
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    Please show support for chocobo boots to be added -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/323512-Suggestion-for-an-item-to-be-added-to-gold-saucer-Chocobo-Boots

    Unhappy with how they implemented Mahjong? -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/381358-Mahjong-is-the-most-depressing-mini-game-you-ve-added-to-XIV

  8. #18
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    Vivian Rysto
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    Leviathan
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    Scholar Lv 100
    This thread is weird... it seems people didn't even watch the video and very clearly don't even keep up with Live Letter news, and then we're talking about Ultimate and Savage for no reason? Let me try to set a few things straight:

    - They've already implemented Relo restrictions as of 6.0 which pretty much killed half of the hidden housing market.
    - They will be implementing Lotto system in 6.1 as Yoshi clearly explained in the latest live letter.
    - Also in 6.1 will come a new feature that prevents newly recruited FC members to purchase land and be moved to FC Master, which will kill the other half of the hidden housing market.
    - Also (because I know someone will ask) the Lotto system won't be implemented on every district. Some places will remain First come-First served (though with Relo and FC restrictions implemented)

    And just as a thought: We call it Housing "Savage" as a joke. Comparing clearable hard combat content with housing in an level feels rather silly...
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  9. #19
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    Zaetia Pryce
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    Weaver Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
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    - Also in 6.1 will come a new feature that prevents newly recruited FC members to purchase land and be moved to FC Master, which will kill the other half of the hidden housing market.
    FC house sellers have already discovered that if you delete the character which is the FC Master, the next appropriate member in the FC gets automatically promoted to FC Master.

    Unless SE does something about this loophole, FC houses sales are still gonna be a thing albeit more cumbersome.
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  10. #20
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    Vivian Rysto
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    FC house sellers have already discovered that if you delete the character which is the FC Master, the next appropriate member in the FC gets automatically promoted to FC Master.

    Unless SE does something about this loophole, FC houses sales are still gonna be a thing albeit more cumbersome.
    Oh, I hope someone from SE is reading this. It's good that at least we know about this. I just hope SE keeps on top of things.
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